Bachmann keeps the ex-gay story alive

Why won’t Michele Bachmann discuss her counseling clinic?
Nearly three weeks after The Nation and Truth Wins Out published separate accounts of sexual orientation change efforts at their Minneapolis-area clinic, Bachmann continues to avoid media questions about the matter. As was demonstrated by her response to questions Sunday at a campaign event in Davenport, IA, her inability to handle the issue has allowed the story to live on.
Late yesterday, WQAD reported that they were snubbed by Bachmann over a prior interview during which a reporter asked about the Bachmann counseling center. Photojournalist Chuck McClurg said he was blocked from filming Bachmann speaking and was told “’due to the interview last week WQAD would not have an interview’” by the Bachmann campaign.
According to McClurg, a reporter from another station then raised questions about the Bachmann’s clinic. At that point, a campaign staffer took the microphone from the candidate, and “tossed it to the reporter,” ending the interview. Despite being promised an interview, Bachmann never emerged from her campaign bus. According to the WQAD report, McClurg said, I’ve been a photojournalist since 1988 and I have logged some 3,000 items. I’ve never been snubbed like I was (here) yesterday.”
Surely, the Bachmann campaign could find something to say about a clinic she once touted as an example of small business creating jobs. Initially, I thought the story might help her with socially conservative Iowa voters. However, now I think the issue serves to expose significant weaknesses in Bachmann as a candidate which the Obama campaign will easily exploit.
Obama will point to her indecision, her lack of transparency, and avoidance of public scrutiny. Never mind that such could also be said for the President. Heavy handed tactics might have worked for the Obama campaign in 2008, but they will alienate GOP voters in 2012. This issue should be a relatively easy one for Bachmann. Bachmann’s stonewalling leave her open to speculation that the clinic is engaged in unprofessional activities or worse. The issue lives on and she has mostly herself to blame for that.

70 thoughts on “Bachmann keeps the ex-gay story alive”

  1. And it goes on:
    Pure Film Creative, a group site run by writer/director James Killough, is offering $10,000 for proof that Marcus Bachmann is gay.

    The PFC Pledge: Before we go any further in trying to transition Marcia into the fold and make her see the error of her ex-gay ways and discard that presidential-hopeful beard, Michele, let me state this: PFC will award $10,000.00 (ten thousand US dollars and zero cents) to any man who has solid, verifiable proof that he has had sex with Marcus Bachmann. We’ll consider another arrangement if you were just propositioned.

  2. @Dave, I would be wary of the specious claims that Greg Quinlan puts forth, esp. on a site, that’s run by the odious, vitriolic Peter LaBarbera.

  3. It’s obvious WQAD wanted to steer Bachman into a discussion of reparative therapy, which is her husband’s business, not her own as a candidate. Of course, this therapy is controversial and could monopolize the whole discussion (e.g. this blog) and people will just tire of hearing about it. Bachman’s position has already been aired, and there are many other issues people want to hear discussed.

  4. Carole,

    I do believe that if one has any doubt as to a group’s intent, if they wish to determine if a group is motivated by or espouses or promotes hate, in the world of the internet, one can go to the literature on their site, one can google the group’s activities and history, and one can use one’s own judgment.

    Well of course they can, and I agree people should. People can do this with anyone the SPLC places on its list of hate groups. But before people dismiss the SPLC outright, they should also perhaps try and understand *why* these groups are on such a list in the first place.

  5. Electric Shock Therapy is still used today in extreme cases of depression and it has worked on some people. Being ex gay is not a myth. And laetrile cannot be compared to these two items.
    At one time I was focused on bringing compassion to the church about gay people. Well…. it seems that has happened more so. And now, I feel compelled to bring compassion to gay people who distance themselves from
    ex gays.

  6. Carole,

    The SPLC has done an admirable job in many areas of civil rights over the years. However, I don’t believe one should ever take on faith that all positions of this org. or of any others should be trusted out of hand. In fact, over the years, the SPLC has lost much of its street cred with average American, and yes, with the educated American as well, and I’d argue that this reduction in credibility is not because average Americans are hate-filled.

    I’ll direct the same question to you. Do you understand why the SPLC has labeled some of these groups as hate groups? I don’t see that the SPLC has lost any “street cred” with the average person. If it has lost it at all it is with fringe groups and their followers who don’t like being placed on the list.

  7. Mary,

    Electric Shock Therapy is still used today in extreme cases of depression and it has worked on some people. Being ex gay is not a myth. And laetrile cannot be compared to these two items.

    That is true, I have patients who undergo this therapy on a regular basis, but lets not compare the application of ECT today to the way it was applied to gay men and women where electrodes where applied to hands, genitals and other areas and people were shocked after shown various pictures. This kind of application can only, in my mind, be described as a form of torture, or perhaps if I were wanting to be generous, brain washing

  8. The Southern Poverty Law Center is the preeminent organization that tracks HATE GROUPS, such as the KKK, White Supremisists, anti Jewish etc.
    A bit OT:
    The SPLC has done an admirable job in many areas of civil rights over the years. However, I don’t believe one should ever take on faith that all positions of this org. or of any others should be trusted out of hand. In fact, over the years, the SPLC has lost much of its street cred with average American, and yes, with the educated American as well, and I’d argue that this reduction in credibility is not because average Americans are hate-filled.
    This is the same org. that calls attempts on the part of many states to curb illegal immigration “hate laws.” The recent Arizona law is called “hate legislation” by the SPLC. The vast majority of Arizonans, along with the vast majority of Americans, along with many people who opposed the Ariz. law for a variety of reasons, do not consider it “hate legislation.” This position has understandably eroded the public’s trust of this group.
    The SPLC has a political agenda and bias just as all such orgs do.
    I simply bring this up because I don’t believe pointing to positions of the SPLC is any kind of proof of this or that being a “hate group” or “hate legislation.”
    I do believe that if one has any doubt as to a group’s intent, if they wish to determine if a group is motivated by or espouses or promotes hate, in the world of the internet, one can go to the literature on their site, one can google the group’s activities and history, and one can use one’s own judgment.

  9. Dave G –
    Have you actually looked at the reason(s) that SPLC listed AFTAH as a hate group?

  10. SG:
    I can also see “HATE GROUP” as prejudiced as “FAG” or “DYKE” –name-calling with a vendetta. I read (and listen to) whatever side I encounter, mostly to see where they’re coming from, which usually involves their own personal experiences and coping with their current situation.

  11. Dave G –
    I think you’re missing the point again.

    Surely, the Bachmann campaign could find something to say about a clinic she once touted as an example of small business creating jobs. Initially, I thought the story might help her with socially conservative Iowa voters. However, now I think the issue serves to expose significant weaknesses in Bachmann as a candidate which the Obama campaign will easily exploit.
    Obama will point to her indecision, her lack of transparency, and avoidance of public scrutiny. Never mind that such could also be said for the President. Heavy handed tactics might have worked for the Obama campaign in 2008, but they will alienate GOP voters in 2012. This issue should be a relatively easy one for Bachmann. Bachmann’s stonewalling leave her open to speculation that the clinic is engaged in unprofessional activities or worse. The issue lives on and she has mostly

  12. Dave G is the reason you are amenable to reading information put out by HATE GROUPS because, for the most part, you agree with them?

  13. To me, putting out “ex gay,” heterosexually married poster children like John and Anne Paulk (as Exodus has done) is pretty solidly in “cure cancer with Meatvegavitamin 3000? territory.

    Just to extend this quack-medicine analogy, such historic practices as electroshock aversion therapy, as well as the ongoing practice of forcing minors into any form of “ex gay” therapy, might be likened to laetrile — an “alternative and all-natural” cancer treatment derived from apricot seeds that was not merely useless, but actually contained enough cyanide to make it actively harmful.

  14. Carole,

    I do believe that if one has any doubt as to a group’s intent, if they wish to determine if a group is motivated by or espouses or promotes hate, in the world of the internet, one can go to the literature on their site, one can google the group’s activities and history, and one can use one’s own judgment.

    Well of course they can, and I agree people should. People can do this with anyone the SPLC places on its list of hate groups. But before people dismiss the SPLC outright, they should also perhaps try and understand *why* these groups are on such a list in the first place.

  15. Carole,

    The SPLC has done an admirable job in many areas of civil rights over the years. However, I don’t believe one should ever take on faith that all positions of this org. or of any others should be trusted out of hand. In fact, over the years, the SPLC has lost much of its street cred with average American, and yes, with the educated American as well, and I’d argue that this reduction in credibility is not because average Americans are hate-filled.

    I’ll direct the same question to you. Do you understand why the SPLC has labeled some of these groups as hate groups? I don’t see that the SPLC has lost any “street cred” with the average person. If it has lost it at all it is with fringe groups and their followers who don’t like being placed on the list.

  16. The Southern Poverty Law Center is the preeminent organization that tracks HATE GROUPS, such as the KKK, White Supremisists, anti Jewish etc.
    A bit OT:
    The SPLC has done an admirable job in many areas of civil rights over the years. However, I don’t believe one should ever take on faith that all positions of this org. or of any others should be trusted out of hand. In fact, over the years, the SPLC has lost much of its street cred with average American, and yes, with the educated American as well, and I’d argue that this reduction in credibility is not because average Americans are hate-filled.
    This is the same org. that calls attempts on the part of many states to curb illegal immigration “hate laws.” The recent Arizona law is called “hate legislation” by the SPLC. The vast majority of Arizonans, along with the vast majority of Americans, along with many people who opposed the Ariz. law for a variety of reasons, do not consider it “hate legislation.” This position has understandably eroded the public’s trust of this group.
    The SPLC has a political agenda and bias just as all such orgs do.
    I simply bring this up because I don’t believe pointing to positions of the SPLC is any kind of proof of this or that being a “hate group” or “hate legislation.”
    I do believe that if one has any doubt as to a group’s intent, if they wish to determine if a group is motivated by or espouses or promotes hate, in the world of the internet, one can go to the literature on their site, one can google the group’s activities and history, and one can use one’s own judgment.

  17. Dave G –
    Have you actually looked at the reason(s) that SPLC listed AFTAH as a hate group?

  18. Dave G is the reason you are amenable to reading information put out by HATE GROUPS because, for the most part, you agree with them?

  19. SG:
    I can also see “HATE GROUP” as prejudiced as “FAG” or “DYKE” –name-calling with a vendetta. I read (and listen to) whatever side I encounter, mostly to see where they’re coming from, which usually involves their own personal experiences and coping with their current situation.

  20. Mary,

    Electric Shock Therapy is still used today in extreme cases of depression and it has worked on some people. Being ex gay is not a myth. And laetrile cannot be compared to these two items.

    That is true, I have patients who undergo this therapy on a regular basis, but lets not compare the application of ECT today to the way it was applied to gay men and women where electrodes where applied to hands, genitals and other areas and people were shocked after shown various pictures. This kind of application can only, in my mind, be described as a form of torture, or perhaps if I were wanting to be generous, brain washing

  21. Electric Shock Therapy is still used today in extreme cases of depression and it has worked on some people. Being ex gay is not a myth. And laetrile cannot be compared to these two items.
    At one time I was focused on bringing compassion to the church about gay people. Well…. it seems that has happened more so. And now, I feel compelled to bring compassion to gay people who distance themselves from
    ex gays.

  22. To me, putting out “ex gay,” heterosexually married poster children like John and Anne Paulk (as Exodus has done) is pretty solidly in “cure cancer with Meatvegavitamin 3000? territory.

    Just to extend this quack-medicine analogy, such historic practices as electroshock aversion therapy, as well as the ongoing practice of forcing minors into any form of “ex gay” therapy, might be likened to laetrile — an “alternative and all-natural” cancer treatment derived from apricot seeds that was not merely useless, but actually contained enough cyanide to make it actively harmful.

  23. if the snake-oil vendor is relatively modest in his claims about what the product can do

    For example, there’s a world of difference between
    “Lung cancer patients experienced 100% recovery after two weeks of Meatvegavitamin 3000”
    and
    “Meatvegavitamin 3000 peps up tired blood and reduces tension headaches”

    To me, putting out “ex gay,” heterosexually married poster children like John and Anne Paulk (as Exodus has done) is pretty solidly in “cure cancer with Meatvegavitamin 3000” territory.
    But it’s not clear to me at this point that the Bachmann clinic was doing anything nearly that misleading with respect to clients who said they were troubled by “homosexual feelings.”


  24. what percentage of the clinics patients are there for some form of SOCE therapy?
    has any of this therapy been paid for through medicaid?
    have any of these SOCE patients been forced into it by their parents?

    It’s this last question that seems especially pertinent to me. In the absence of any evidence that patients were being coerced into “ex gay” therapy at the Bachmann clinic, this story strikes me as roughly akin to “Candidate and spouse ran Homeopathic Meatavegavitamin business.”
    (Selling snake oil isn’t necessary illegal, nor a campaign-wrecking scandal, if the snake-oil vendor is relatively modest in his claims about what the product can do, which makes it effectively impossible to prove intentional fraud.)

  25. Dave G

    Bloggers: I don’t necessarily buy into the views of all writers, but I am open-minded enough to not reject any until I read what they have to say. Then I can agree or disagree, whether its SPLC or AFTAH or ACLU or ACLJ or whoever.

    To each his own then Dave G. As for me I don’t read anything put out by HATE GROUPS. Would you read the pages of the KKK and weigh what they have to say first, and not just reject them out of hand? How about articles from racists skin heads, and neo-nazis, would you keep an open mind and read what they have to say? I look at it this way, the core issue may be different but the base HATRED is the same. I will always call attention to people who quote from organizations that the SPLC has designated as a HATE GROUP. There are plenty of sources of information I do not feel that reposting or linking to anything from a designated HATE GROUP is appropriate. Obviously we have different standards.

  26. Dave G –
    I too have an open mind, for a long time I tried to give some groups, AFTAH, the benefit of the doubt. I read what they had to say – more times than not what I found was that they either lied or twisted information about gay people in order to undermine them and further their own cause. I gave them plenty of chances, I see no reason to continue doing so when they haven’t show any indication of repenting of their ways.

  27. Warren,
    Yes, she did cite the clinic as a small business –one with which she was immediately familiar. Whereas she agrees with the clinic’s work, that wasn’t the point she was making. She honestly believes small businesses create more jobs more readily than large corporations, and this is the point she wants to make.
    Bloggers: I don’t necessarily buy into the views of all writers, but I am open-minded enough to not reject any until I read what they have to say. Then I can agree or disagree, whether its SPLC or AFTAH or ACLU or ACLJ or whoever.

  28. Dave G –
    No hate from my end, I just don’t respect that group or what it says 🙂

  29. Well, it seems like we all have agendas, don’t we. I even detect a bit of bitterness and perhaps hatred.

    oh brother.

  30. Dave G anything on Peter LaBarbera Americans for Truth About Homosexuality website is automatically rejected. I am sure you are aware that Peter LaBarbera’s Americans for Truth About Homosexuality has been designated a ***HATE GROUP*** by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/the-hard-liners
    The Southern Poverty Law Center is the preeminent organization that tracks HATE GROUPS, such as the KKK, White Supremisists, anti Jewish etc. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology
    Additionally the Southern Poverty Law Center is community partner to the FBI tracking HATE GROUPS.
    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2007/february/coldcases_022707
    Dave G, if you hope to speak credibly you should come up with better sources than designated HATE GROUPS.

  31. DAVE G – The issues are not tangential to her campaign. She has used the clinic as an example of her abilities to create jobs and understand small business.

  32. if the snake-oil vendor is relatively modest in his claims about what the product can do

    For example, there’s a world of difference between
    “Lung cancer patients experienced 100% recovery after two weeks of Meatvegavitamin 3000”
    and
    “Meatvegavitamin 3000 peps up tired blood and reduces tension headaches”

    To me, putting out “ex gay,” heterosexually married poster children like John and Anne Paulk (as Exodus has done) is pretty solidly in “cure cancer with Meatvegavitamin 3000” territory.
    But it’s not clear to me at this point that the Bachmann clinic was doing anything nearly that misleading with respect to clients who said they were troubled by “homosexual feelings.”

  33. Well, it seems like we all have agendas, don’t we. I even detect a bit of bitterness and perhaps hatred.
    I surmise Bachman is simply avoiding getting caught up in a myriad of agendas tangential to her campaign.


  34. what percentage of the clinics patients are there for some form of SOCE therapy?
    has any of this therapy been paid for through medicaid?
    have any of these SOCE patients been forced into it by their parents?

    It’s this last question that seems especially pertinent to me. In the absence of any evidence that patients were being coerced into “ex gay” therapy at the Bachmann clinic, this story strikes me as roughly akin to “Candidate and spouse ran Homeopathic Meatavegavitamin business.”
    (Selling snake oil isn’t necessary illegal, nor a campaign-wrecking scandal, if the snake-oil vendor is relatively modest in his claims about what the product can do, which makes it effectively impossible to prove intentional fraud.)

  35. DAVE G# ~ Jul 27, 2011 at 11:28 am
    “Bachman’s position has already been aired, and there are many other issues people want to hear discussed.”
    Perhaps, but as this clinic is the small business Michele Bachmann touts as her expertise in small business. So there are several details about this clinic I’d still like to know ex:
    what percentage of the clinics income is from medicaid?
    what percentage of the clinics patients are on medicaid?
    What percentage of the clinics income is from some form of SOCE therapy?
    what percentage of the clinics patients are there for some form of SOCE therapy?
    has any of this therapy been paid for through medicaid?
    have any of these SOCE patients been forced into it by their parents?

  36. Dave G

    Bloggers: I don’t necessarily buy into the views of all writers, but I am open-minded enough to not reject any until I read what they have to say. Then I can agree or disagree, whether its SPLC or AFTAH or ACLU or ACLJ or whoever.

    To each his own then Dave G. As for me I don’t read anything put out by HATE GROUPS. Would you read the pages of the KKK and weigh what they have to say first, and not just reject them out of hand? How about articles from racists skin heads, and neo-nazis, would you keep an open mind and read what they have to say? I look at it this way, the core issue may be different but the base HATRED is the same. I will always call attention to people who quote from organizations that the SPLC has designated as a HATE GROUP. There are plenty of sources of information I do not feel that reposting or linking to anything from a designated HATE GROUP is appropriate. Obviously we have different standards.

  37. When asked what he looks for in a potential wife, he says “female and breathing.”

    My cat fits that description. So does my peke.

  38. Greg Quinlan is a sad man. His “ex-lesbian” wife divorced him a little while ago, and I suspect it’s because she got tired of being nothing but Greg’s “beard.” When asked what he looks for in a potential wife, he says “female and breathing.”
    With standards that low you’d think he’d have found someone by now.
    Even many ex-gay groups don’t like his philosophy regarding sexual orientation because he claims ex-gays are in and of themselves an individual orientation, akin to homosexuality and heterosexuality.
    PFOX itself is a hateful fringey group. I’d sooner trust Exodus.

  39. AFTAH has absolutely no credibility – they have an agenda and they tell their people what they want to hear.

  40. Dave G –
    I too have an open mind, for a long time I tried to give some groups, AFTAH, the benefit of the doubt. I read what they had to say – more times than not what I found was that they either lied or twisted information about gay people in order to undermine them and further their own cause. I gave them plenty of chances, I see no reason to continue doing so when they haven’t show any indication of repenting of their ways.

  41. Bernie,
    Greg speaks for PFOX; LaBarbera simply brings it to our attention. Feel free to ignore anything else AFTAH says, or not.

  42. Dave G –
    I think you’re missing the point again.

    Surely, the Bachmann campaign could find something to say about a clinic she once touted as an example of small business creating jobs. Initially, I thought the story might help her with socially conservative Iowa voters. However, now I think the issue serves to expose significant weaknesses in Bachmann as a candidate which the Obama campaign will easily exploit.
    Obama will point to her indecision, her lack of transparency, and avoidance of public scrutiny. Never mind that such could also be said for the President. Heavy handed tactics might have worked for the Obama campaign in 2008, but they will alienate GOP voters in 2012. This issue should be a relatively easy one for Bachmann. Bachmann’s stonewalling leave her open to speculation that the clinic is engaged in unprofessional activities or worse. The issue lives on and she has mostly

  43. @Dave, I would be wary of the specious claims that Greg Quinlan puts forth, esp. on a site, that’s run by the odious, vitriolic Peter LaBarbera.

  44. Warren,
    Yes, she did cite the clinic as a small business –one with which she was immediately familiar. Whereas she agrees with the clinic’s work, that wasn’t the point she was making. She honestly believes small businesses create more jobs more readily than large corporations, and this is the point she wants to make.
    Bloggers: I don’t necessarily buy into the views of all writers, but I am open-minded enough to not reject any until I read what they have to say. Then I can agree or disagree, whether its SPLC or AFTAH or ACLU or ACLJ or whoever.

  45. Dave G –
    No hate from my end, I just don’t respect that group or what it says 🙂

  46. It’s obvious WQAD wanted to steer Bachman into a discussion of reparative therapy, which is her husband’s business, not her own as a candidate. Of course, this therapy is controversial and could monopolize the whole discussion (e.g. this blog) and people will just tire of hearing about it. Bachman’s position has already been aired, and there are many other issues people want to hear discussed.

  47. Well, it seems like we all have agendas, don’t we. I even detect a bit of bitterness and perhaps hatred.

    oh brother.

  48. Dave G anything on Peter LaBarbera Americans for Truth About Homosexuality website is automatically rejected. I am sure you are aware that Peter LaBarbera’s Americans for Truth About Homosexuality has been designated a ***HATE GROUP*** by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/the-hard-liners
    The Southern Poverty Law Center is the preeminent organization that tracks HATE GROUPS, such as the KKK, White Supremisists, anti Jewish etc. http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology
    Additionally the Southern Poverty Law Center is community partner to the FBI tracking HATE GROUPS.
    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2007/february/coldcases_022707
    Dave G, if you hope to speak credibly you should come up with better sources than designated HATE GROUPS.

  49. DAVE G – The issues are not tangential to her campaign. She has used the clinic as an example of her abilities to create jobs and understand small business.

  50. Well, it seems like we all have agendas, don’t we. I even detect a bit of bitterness and perhaps hatred.
    I surmise Bachman is simply avoiding getting caught up in a myriad of agendas tangential to her campaign.

  51. DAVE G# ~ Jul 27, 2011 at 11:28 am
    “Bachman’s position has already been aired, and there are many other issues people want to hear discussed.”
    Perhaps, but as this clinic is the small business Michele Bachmann touts as her expertise in small business. So there are several details about this clinic I’d still like to know ex:
    what percentage of the clinics income is from medicaid?
    what percentage of the clinics patients are on medicaid?
    What percentage of the clinics income is from some form of SOCE therapy?
    what percentage of the clinics patients are there for some form of SOCE therapy?
    has any of this therapy been paid for through medicaid?
    have any of these SOCE patients been forced into it by their parents?

  52. When asked what he looks for in a potential wife, he says “female and breathing.”

    My cat fits that description. So does my peke.

  53. Greg Quinlan is a sad man. His “ex-lesbian” wife divorced him a little while ago, and I suspect it’s because she got tired of being nothing but Greg’s “beard.” When asked what he looks for in a potential wife, he says “female and breathing.”
    With standards that low you’d think he’d have found someone by now.
    Even many ex-gay groups don’t like his philosophy regarding sexual orientation because he claims ex-gays are in and of themselves an individual orientation, akin to homosexuality and heterosexuality.
    PFOX itself is a hateful fringey group. I’d sooner trust Exodus.

  54. Bernie# ~ Jul 26, 2011 at 5:05 pm
    “I don’t know about you guys, but like how many jobs is that for a clinic? 5, maybe 20, tops. What does this little bit of overzealous self-aggrandizement have to do with the 25 million jobs that are needed? ”
    However, it is a small business and gives her credibility when she says “I’m a small business owner and Obama’s policies hurt small business.”
    As to the issues about the clinic itself, I suspect her evasions will spawn its own “birther” movement. However, I don’t really see Bachmann as a viable candidate. She is too extreme and unyielding.

  55. AFTAH has absolutely no credibility – they have an agenda and they tell their people what they want to hear.

  56. Bernie,
    Greg speaks for PFOX; LaBarbera simply brings it to our attention. Feel free to ignore anything else AFTAH says, or not.

  57. Bernie# ~ Jul 26, 2011 at 5:05 pm
    “I don’t know about you guys, but like how many jobs is that for a clinic? 5, maybe 20, tops. What does this little bit of overzealous self-aggrandizement have to do with the 25 million jobs that are needed? ”
    However, it is a small business and gives her credibility when she says “I’m a small business owner and Obama’s policies hurt small business.”
    As to the issues about the clinic itself, I suspect her evasions will spawn its own “birther” movement. However, I don’t really see Bachmann as a viable candidate. She is too extreme and unyielding.

  58. Bernie-

    I fear this woman has an emerging pattern known simply as ‘Delusions of Grandeur’.

    I agree, also one word comes to mind when I watched the interview Warren linked to, “petulant”

  59. Bernie-

    I fear this woman has an emerging pattern known simply as ‘Delusions of Grandeur’.

    I agree, also one word comes to mind when I watched the interview Warren linked to, “petulant”

  60. And it goes on:
    Pure Film Creative, a group site run by writer/director James Killough, is offering $10,000 for proof that Marcus Bachmann is gay.

    The PFC Pledge: Before we go any further in trying to transition Marcia into the fold and make her see the error of her ex-gay ways and discard that presidential-hopeful beard, Michele, let me state this: PFC will award $10,000.00 (ten thousand US dollars and zero cents) to any man who has solid, verifiable proof that he has had sex with Marcus Bachmann. We’ll consider another arrangement if you were just propositioned.

  61. I love that, “I am a small business jobs creator.” Maybe it’s me? I don’t know about you guys, but like how many jobs is that for a clinic? 5, maybe 20, tops. What does this little bit of overzealous self-aggrandizement have to do with the 25 million jobs that are needed? I fear this woman has an emerging pattern known simply as ‘Delusions of Grandeur’.
    It’s sound to me as if they have something to hide. If not then quash the story already.

  62. I love that, “I am a small business jobs creator.” Maybe it’s me? I don’t know about you guys, but like how many jobs is that for a clinic? 5, maybe 20, tops. What does this little bit of overzealous self-aggrandizement have to do with the 25 million jobs that are needed? I fear this woman has an emerging pattern known simply as ‘Delusions of Grandeur’.
    It’s sound to me as if they have something to hide. If not then quash the story already.

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