Here is part one of Anderson Cooper’s series on the Sissy Boy Experiment involving UCLA and George Rekers.
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Here is part one of Anderson Cooper’s series on the Sissy Boy Experiment involving UCLA and George Rekers.
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It appears that Rekers’ condones corporal punishment for gender atypical behavior.
*SIGH*
Here’s a heavily cherry-picked sample of The Christian World View of the Family , Edited by Dr. George Rekers, Ph.D., Chairman; Jerry Regier, M.A.B.S., Co-Chairman; With contributions by members of the Family Committee of The Coalition on Revival; Dr. Jay Grimstead, General Editor; E. Calvin Beisner, M.A., Assistant to the General Editor:
So temporary disfigurement is fine, and there’s no such thing as emotional cruelty. And Masturbation should be illegal. As should any sex outside marriage.
This from a man who is a practicing Child Psychologist.
Warren, I commented about this many moons ago. I called for an investigation, follow-ups of this man’s patients. I want to know how many children have died. I want to know how these Hyper-Christian Hypocrites who seem devoid of empathy can get away with this for so long.
At some point, there is a restriction, not on religious belief, but on religious practice. To take the most extreme example, devout, genuine worshippers of Huitzilopochtli are not allowed to practice human sacrifice, no matter how much a core belief that may be. At what point does cult belief become a disqualifier for medical practioners who practice what they preach on children? At what point do professional organisations have a duty to step in?
I don’t know: trample not on others religions, if you don’t want yours to be trampled on in turn. But there have to be limits.
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This suggests he supported the physical abuse of Kirk by his father as a legitimate way to carry out the treatment program.
Biblical spanking – LOL. You have to permanently disfigure a child before he will call it abuse? So-called offenses? This man is insane.
DAVE G said:
Agreed.
@Jase –
No it’s not, any more than the Folsom Street Fair is the fact of Gays.
It’s a pathological form of religiousity. Christianity is far more diverse. Yes, this is a part of it, and possibly the most politically powerful part of it. It’s sick and dangerous.
Have a look at The Christian World View of Psychology and Counseling
Mr. George C. Scipione, Th.M., M.A., Chairman • Dr. Lawrence Crabb, Ph.D., Co-Chairman • Dr. Ed Payne, M.D., Co-Chairman • With contributions by members of the Psychology and Counseling Committee of The Coalition on Revival • Dr. Jay Grimstead, D.Min., General Editor • Mr. E. Calvin Beisner, M.A., Assistant to the General Editor
George Rekers being the most prominent member of the Psychology and Counseling Committee .
All people are Evil. Unless restrained by an Invisible Sky Policeman, they will act with depravity – as all the authors of this work do, when they think God sanctions it, allows it, even approves of it.
“Science” is dismissed; if they use the forms of science, it’s only to proselytise – and they assume that everyone else does that too, so have no issues with manufacturing data to refute others’ evidence, that they assume is manufactured too.
Demons have reality. All Truth is in the Bible, it’s the only book a Christian Counsellor or Psychologist needs.
I don’t know what professional licences George Rekers and the other anonymous “Christian Counselors and Psychologists” have. Neither do I know what professional associations they belong to. But I really, really hope that those organisations do some house-cleaning here.
Dave G said:
“Cultural standards for “femininity” and “masculinity” are too narrowly defined. We need a broader understanding of individual gifts and abilities.”
I’m quite prepared to appreciate each indiduals gifts, but not at the cost of clear thinking. “Masculinity” and “feminity” are quite clear defined on a comparative scale as “that which is more frequent in males” resp. “that which is more frequent in females”. Would you prefer a “persuasive definition”, like, “masculinity is that which ought to be more frequent in males”? And do you believ that communication will be better if everyone uses his personal “persuasive definition”?
Dave G said:
“Cultural standards for “femininity” and “masculinity” are too narrowly defined. We need a broader understanding of individual gifts and abilities.”
I’m quite prepared to appreciate each indiduals gifts, but not at the cost of clear thinking. “Masculinity” and “feminity” are quite clear defined on a comparative scale as “that which is more frequent in males” resp. “that which is more frequent in females”. Would you prefer a “persuasive definition”, like, “masculinity is that which ought to be more frequent in males”? And do you believ that communication will be better if everyone uses his personal “persuasive definition”?
@Jase –
No it’s not, any more than the Folsom Street Fair is the fact of Gays.
It’s a pathological form of religiousity. Christianity is far more diverse. Yes, this is a part of it, and possibly the most politically powerful part of it. It’s sick and dangerous.
Have a look at The Christian World View of Psychology and Counseling
Mr. George C. Scipione, Th.M., M.A., Chairman • Dr. Lawrence Crabb, Ph.D., Co-Chairman • Dr. Ed Payne, M.D., Co-Chairman • With contributions by members of the Psychology and Counseling Committee of The Coalition on Revival • Dr. Jay Grimstead, D.Min., General Editor • Mr. E. Calvin Beisner, M.A., Assistant to the General Editor
George Rekers being the most prominent member of the Psychology and Counseling Committee .
All people are Evil. Unless restrained by an Invisible Sky Policeman, they will act with depravity – as all the authors of this work do, when they think God sanctions it, allows it, even approves of it.
“Science” is dismissed; if they use the forms of science, it’s only to proselytise – and they assume that everyone else does that too, so have no issues with manufacturing data to refute others’ evidence, that they assume is manufactured too.
Demons have reality. All Truth is in the Bible, it’s the only book a Christian Counsellor or Psychologist needs.
I don’t know what professional licences George Rekers and the other anonymous “Christian Counselors and Psychologists” have. Neither do I know what professional associations they belong to. But I really, really hope that those organisations do some house-cleaning here.
Well the context was simply the excerpt at the FotF website. I find it difficult to think that 6 year olds are viewing porn myself.
Would sexual massage from a certified luggage lifer be included in “other sexual deviations”?
And as for biblical spanking, well… a bible leaves fewer welts than a belt.
This suggests he supported the physical abuse of Kirk by his father as a legitimate way to carry out the treatment program.
@Zoe:
What is your point? That these Christians would inflict pain and misery to children while exculpating their abusers? That is how they treat everyone. Why should children be exempt from “Christian love”? In fact, I’d say that the article you quoted is a bit soft on the kids. Why should permanent disfigurement be off the table? Since the Bible condones the execution of disobedient children, it hardly seems consistent to complain about permanent scars.
I don’t know who Regier is. Jay Grimstead is a well known Reconstructionist who advocates incorporating Old Testament law into today’s civil law.
Cal Beisner is now Christianity’s leading spokesperson on the environment. Through his organization, the Cornwall Alliance, he seeks to do for the environment what his previous work did for children. The primary goal of the group appears to be combating climate change “alarmists” and the “cult of the Green dragon,” which is his derisive term for Sierra Club members and their ilk.
I first heard Mr. Beisner speak when he appeared on Bryan Fischer’s program on AFA during the BP oil spill last year. Even though AFA broadcasts out of Mississippi, and even though many of its supporters on the Gulf Coast were in the process of being slathered in oil, AFA was uncharacteristically silent. So I tuned in to hear what a Christian environmentalist would have to say about it.
As best I can tell, Beisner and Fischer’s two main concerns were that BP was being “shaken down” for money to pay for the damage it caused and that Pres. Obama was trying to limit offshore drilling. They had little or nothing to say about the dead rig workers or the people who had to worry if their fish was now poisoned for decades to come. The video is probably still up at AFA if you can stomach it.
This is the face of Christianity today.
Well the context was simply the excerpt at the FotF website. I find it difficult to think that 6 year olds are viewing porn myself.
Biblical spanking – LOL. You have to permanently disfigure a child before he will call it abuse? So-called offenses? This man is insane.
*SIGH*
Here’s a heavily cherry-picked sample of The Christian World View of the Family , Edited by Dr. George Rekers, Ph.D., Chairman; Jerry Regier, M.A.B.S., Co-Chairman; With contributions by members of the Family Committee of The Coalition on Revival; Dr. Jay Grimstead, General Editor; E. Calvin Beisner, M.A., Assistant to the General Editor:
So temporary disfigurement is fine, and there’s no such thing as emotional cruelty. And Masturbation should be illegal. As should any sex outside marriage.
This from a man who is a practicing Child Psychologist.
Warren, I commented about this many moons ago. I called for an investigation, follow-ups of this man’s patients. I want to know how many children have died. I want to know how these Hyper-Christian Hypocrites who seem devoid of empathy can get away with this for so long.
At some point, there is a restriction, not on religious belief, but on religious practice. To take the most extreme example, devout, genuine worshippers of Huitzilopochtli are not allowed to practice human sacrifice, no matter how much a core belief that may be. At what point does cult belief become a disqualifier for medical practioners who practice what they preach on children? At what point do professional organisations have a duty to step in?
I don’t know: trample not on others religions, if you don’t want yours to be trampled on in turn. But there have to be limits.
‘
Would sexual massage from a certified luggage lifer be included in “other sexual deviations”?
And as for biblical spanking, well… a bible leaves fewer welts than a belt.
@Zoe:
What is your point? That these Christians would inflict pain and misery to children while exculpating their abusers? That is how they treat everyone. Why should children be exempt from “Christian love”? In fact, I’d say that the article you quoted is a bit soft on the kids. Why should permanent disfigurement be off the table? Since the Bible condones the execution of disobedient children, it hardly seems consistent to complain about permanent scars.
I don’t know who Regier is. Jay Grimstead is a well known Reconstructionist who advocates incorporating Old Testament law into today’s civil law.
Cal Beisner is now Christianity’s leading spokesperson on the environment. Through his organization, the Cornwall Alliance, he seeks to do for the environment what his previous work did for children. The primary goal of the group appears to be combating climate change “alarmists” and the “cult of the Green dragon,” which is his derisive term for Sierra Club members and their ilk.
I first heard Mr. Beisner speak when he appeared on Bryan Fischer’s program on AFA during the BP oil spill last year. Even though AFA broadcasts out of Mississippi, and even though many of its supporters on the Gulf Coast were in the process of being slathered in oil, AFA was uncharacteristically silent. So I tuned in to hear what a Christian environmentalist would have to say about it.
As best I can tell, Beisner and Fischer’s two main concerns were that BP was being “shaken down” for money to pay for the damage it caused and that Pres. Obama was trying to limit offshore drilling. They had little or nothing to say about the dead rig workers or the people who had to worry if their fish was now poisoned for decades to come. The video is probably still up at AFA if you can stomach it.
This is the face of Christianity today.
@ Lynn David.
I do not know where Schmierer gets his ideas. The list seems absurd in the context you present it.
Lynn,
If I remember correctly, Rekers also employed positive reinforcement in his mixed bag of “tricks”.
@ Lynn David.
I do not know where Schmierer gets his ideas. The list seems absurd in the context you present it.
Lynn,
If I remember correctly, Rekers also employed positive reinforcement in his mixed bag of “tricks”.
Dave,
Absolutely! I blame, in part, an American media that seems in some ways bent on spoon feeding people gender stereotypes.
This is such a tragedy.
Lynn,
I’m sure you noticed, but corporal punishment was not the only “punishment” offered. The mother ignoring the son as he acted in ways that were considered too feminine was another more emotional type used.
There are a myriad of other ways that a parent can show their disagreements with a child’s behavior. Admittedly, when a male child displays a feminine attitude and is otherwise not misbehaving, one might be at a loss as to how to express that disagreement. But certainly positive reinforcement would be a better route than Reker’s corporal punishment. In fact, Reker’s corporal punishment by the father is somewhat akin to reinforcing the daddy issues of neo-Freudian psychologists such as Nicolosi.
It all makes me wonder what Don Schmierer suggests in “An Ounce of Prevention” – I have not read the book. The most I know about the book comes from the Focus on the Family website, troubledwith.com. And that’s the first time I have come to know about that website. The excerpt on that site says:
But further states as causes of homosexuality:
I am at a loss to see how some of these could be a cause of homosexuality, especially for effemincy in a young male. It seems as though Schmierer begins with ‘it’s a choice’ (self-will) and ends with pointing the finger at the father for not providing leadership. Inbetween there are some possibilities, though not by any chance a listing of causes which would fit the majority of guys I know.
So, Warren or perhaps David Blakeslee, do you know if Schmierer has used Reker’s work in any way?
Dave,
Absolutely! I blame, in part, an American media that seems in some ways bent on spoon feeding people gender stereotypes.
This is such a tragedy.
Lynn,
I’m sure you noticed, but corporal punishment was not the only “punishment” offered. The mother ignoring the son as he acted in ways that were considered too feminine was another more emotional type used.
There are a myriad of other ways that a parent can show their disagreements with a child’s behavior. Admittedly, when a male child displays a feminine attitude and is otherwise not misbehaving, one might be at a loss as to how to express that disagreement. But certainly positive reinforcement would be a better route than Reker’s corporal punishment. In fact, Reker’s corporal punishment by the father is somewhat akin to reinforcing the daddy issues of neo-Freudian psychologists such as Nicolosi.
It all makes me wonder what Don Schmierer suggests in “An Ounce of Prevention” – I have not read the book. The most I know about the book comes from the Focus on the Family website, troubledwith.com. And that’s the first time I have come to know about that website. The excerpt on that site says:
But further states as causes of homosexuality:
I am at a loss to see how some of these could be a cause of homosexuality, especially for effemincy in a young male. It seems as though Schmierer begins with ‘it’s a choice’ (self-will) and ends with pointing the finger at the father for not providing leadership. Inbetween there are some possibilities, though not by any chance a listing of causes which would fit the majority of guys I know.
So, Warren or perhaps David Blakeslee, do you know if Schmierer has used Reker’s work in any way?
It appears that Rekers’ condones corporal punishment for gender atypical behavior.
DAVE G said:
Agreed.
Cultural standards for “femininity” and “masculinity” are too narrowly defined. We need a broader understanding of individual gifts and abilities.
Cultural standards for “femininity” and “masculinity” are too narrowly defined. We need a broader understanding of individual gifts and abilities.