According to the New Vision:
THE Speaker of Parliament, Edward Kiwanuka Sekandi, has summoned MPs to report to the House on March 22.
Hellen Kaweesa, the public relations manager of Parliament, said the clerk to Parliament had already notified all the MPs to return and handle unfinished business.
Last year, Sekandi sent Parliament on recess to allow MPs get enough time for their campaigns. The Bills to be debated include the parliamentary pensions amendments Bill of 2010, the anti-homosexuality Bill and the retirements benefits authority Bill.
This sitting will be the first since the Constitutional Court kicked out 77 MPs from the House for refusing to vacate their seats before defected to other parties.
The 8th Parliament, whose term expires in two months time, has remained with only 255 MPs.
This is of concern given that The New Vision’s majority ownership is the Ugandan government. I suspect that opponents and proponents of the bill will be jockeying for their agenda over the next several weeks.
I reported recently that Legal and Parliamentary Affairs Committee Chair Stephen Tashobya was unsure if the bill would come up. In light of the New Vision report, I asked him if the bill might now make the agenda. He told me that the Parliament would indeed reconvene on March 22 but that the agenda had not yet been decided. He said, “What I can say is that we have a lot of work to get done and if there is time to get to that bill (the Anti-Homosexuality Bill) then we will look at it, but if there is no time, then we won’t be able to this session.” Tashobya added that the agenda would not be worked out until Parliament reconvenes and that he could not confirm anything at this point.
Perhaps other Uganda watchers could help handicap this situation but it seems to me that the public status is going to remain cloudy through the Spring.
Try again (I was trying to do things at once):-
So you don’t want to comment meaningfully on the important current issues. OK.
But I will: you have repeatedly said how wicked the West is. I can however assure you that, in the U.K. (which has a similar number of 10 – 14 year olds as UG), the number of girls abused by their male teachers is nowhere near 40,000 per annum. The obsession that too many (though by no means all) Ugandans have with indulging in gay bashing may be blinding them to more pressing and serious matters.
Let’s return to the three big current issues:-
1. those soaring food prices (which are very worrying – my UG friends are really hurting as a result of these),
2. the 43,000 or so female victims of child sex abuse, and
3. growing unrest in Kampala.
Good governance involves setting proper priorities, and I hope the ‘sensible ones’ in the UG body-politic will do just that.
(I’m trying to be helpful here. I have many UG friends and do care about UG’s welfare.)
But it does seem to be a problem for you personally. You keep wanting to expose and punish fellow Ugandans who are doing you no harm at all.
@ John
We posted simultaneously. Of course, your point strikes me as entirely to the logical mind.
I’m curious as to why the term “militant gay sex” is since that would imply coercion. Gay sex can be consensual, in which case it may very well be viewed as an intimate encounter between two love birds within the confines of their humble abode. Seems to me that the “militant” part of the phrase is grossly inaccurate.
Perhaps Maazi should be given a talk about the birds and the bees. Some things, like who you fall in love with, aren’t chosen. And what two love birds do behind closed doors shouldn’t really concern him.
I agree, ‘Maazi’. Just because Buturo has gone doesn’t mean that the essential problem has too.
about donors having more sway than the electorate… goes to show that elections are meaningless under the prevailing circumstances, especially if the electorate can be kept poor and ignorant enough to be bought using diverted donor aid and if donors can be appeased enough to keep the money coming in, unknowingly feeding the hidden interests of the corrupt.
meanwhile we have the gal to waste years of over-inflated taxpayer-funded parliamentary salaries debating unconstitutional and discriminatory laws that punish the private sexual activities of consenting adults.
buturo resigned today.
looks like maazi’s ninety whatever percent of ugandans has just dropped to forty something percent.
@ anteros :
It is indeed a great shame that the existence of the Bill is apparently hurting the Ugandan economy at a time when food, and many other, prices are soaring.
The fact that development partners have tended to give ‘the benefit of the doubt’ in the past does strongly suggest that it is principally the existence of this proposed savage and discriminatory legislation that leading to this new, tougher, approach. Deeply regrettable. The sooner the Bill is killed, the better for everyone.
Just spoken with two Ugandan friends*: soap now more expensive (in nominal terms, and not relative to incomes) than in Britain. I don’t understand it; it’s really tough.
* They are both straight, by the way – so no need for anyone to get all excited.
buturo. urgh.
@ anteros
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
(‘Maazi’ is perfectly entitled to criticise aspects of other countries if he wishes, and has done so frequently in the past.)
about buturo’s resignation:
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/03/15/31325
Another indication of how the Bill may have unnecessarily riled development partners … the Dutch say ‘no’ to Buturo’s pleas for help: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/748484?highlight&q=buturo
It seems he was ‘sacked’ the Prime Minister:
http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/749178
richard, buturo himself repeatedly urged donors to go ahead and cut aid over the bill, he started provoking donors that way even months before the actual bill was introduced. now here he is begging donors to be patient… over a corruption scandal from 2007, never ending “investigations”, known thugs going unprosecuted, stolen money unrecovered to this day – despite agreeing with donors on a clean up plan with deadlines. using elections as an excuse for not meeting the agreed deadline is shocking – given the electorate’s clear priority on anti corruption results, elections should have been reason enough to meet that deadline. if both the electorate and donors couldn’t get them to deliver results on their anti corruption promises, then no amount of patience will deliver results. buturo is basically admitting that the ugandan government respects donors more than the electorate.
ethics and integrity? …really?
wasnt maazi whining about donors merely talking about reconsidering their aid packages in response to bahati’s unconstitutional bill rather than cutting aid over corruption?
Latest development …
Desperately wanting to be loved by someone, Buturo seeks to attract gays to add to the 60 he claims he has already recruited for his ‘therapy’:
http://www.ugandaurgentaction.com/buturo'ssuggeste.html
(But dear old Butty-boy has made a factual error, of course: same-sex activity IS observed in many animal species – over 500 in fact.)
It is in Uganda. No wonder why you cannot see it in London.
I am sure you are right when in the territorial jurisdiction of the United Kingdom. But in the Republic of Uganda, consent is no excuse for you to violate the law of the land or incite others to violate the law of the land. Those who don’t like the Ugandan law of the land can always emigrate.
The Monitor article of two days ago also cited the Bill, but named other bills as ‘critical’.
http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1121436/-/c41c0vz/-/index.html
Meanwhile, it might seem to some that an Anti-HETEROsexuality Bill could be a good idea: http://allafrica.com/stories/200808040078.html
Yes, Yes,Yes. Perhaps, the United States Airforce (USAF) should drop a bomb on the Parliament of Uganda at night when it is empty. In that way, the parliamentarians will not be able to return to their duties and are therefore effectively “handicapped” until way after May 2011. Is it possible that USAF Colonel Warren Throckmorton could lead the fleet of USAF bombers on “Operation GayUganda Freedom”? Someone could win a Pink (er sorry, “Purple”) Heart Medal from President Barack Obama II for such a mission, but then who knows?
What ‘gay sex militancy’? Where is this ‘gay sex militancy’ of which you keep speaking? Noone is saying that you must have gay sex if you don’t want to – quite the contrary: you should only have gay sex if you choose to consent to it, ‘Maazi’.
‘Maazi’
Welcome back! I see you are as rude and irrelevant as ever!
POINT OF CORRECTION:
It should have read as follows:
And I see that you are struggling very hard to make YOUR irrelevant self relevant in the affairs of the Ugandan people.
The Anti-Hetero Bill was a joke, of course!
Is the NRM ‘liberal’, by the way?
My Ugandan friends (many of whom are probably rather ‘straighter’ than you are*) find my observations most relevant, thank you!
* They don’t feel the need to keep ’tilting at gay sex militancy windmills’.
Naaah !! State Department people are too cautious and wimpy. I suggest the Pentagon. Then re-draft Donald “there-are-known-unknowns” Rumsfeld and Paul “da Wolf” Wolfowitz to work alongside the Euro-American Gay Lobby to do the necessary propaganda work required to justify a “humanitarian” US military intervention such as “Operation GayUganda Freedom”
I will pass along your strategy to the State Dept…
Actually Richard is very relevant.You don’t have to be from Uganda to know about what is going on there.It is astonishing that Ugandans can go on and on about how sacred the children are (which of course they are) and in the same breath be quite comfortable about degrading fellow human beings and advocating for their deaths or other such horrible things.Why are people so OBSESSED with gay sex? It is simply abnormal to be so hateful and involved in something.Gay people in any country are a minority – they are not part of an army wanting to take over, they are not trying to recruit people, most thank God do not abuse children: the majority just want to live in peace.As they said in the 60s Keep your law off my body! And in thiscase, Ugandans bodies!
I’m just commenting, ‘Maazi’. This is the internet (and not Ugandan territory) – and I’m perfectly free to comment.
It seems that there are lot of ‘Ugandan affairs’ going on.
wasn’t buturo on the bill’s committee? if more than a year after the committee was tasked with debating, amending and passing the bill, a resigning *senior* member of the committee reveals that parliamentarians need to be coaxed into debating, amending and passing the bill…
Dr Nsaba Buturo was one the finest ministers to have ever been in the Ugandan cabinet. His attitude towards those undermining the development of Uganda allied with his exit from politics was honourable, being one of the few politicians to have ever earned the title of honourable member. Long live BUTURO.
Dr Nsaba Buturo was one the finest ministers to have ever been in the Ugandan cabinet. His attitude towards those undermining the development of Uganda allied with his exit from politics was honourable, being one of the few politicians to have ever earned the title of honourable member. Long live BUTURO.
‘Maazi’!
You haven’t mentioned ‘gay sex’! What about my informal pension!!!
Well, your comment above is a function of your intepretation of events and your perception of the situation on the ground. I hope you do realise that perception and reality can on many occassions be miles apart from each other.
‘Maazi’!
You haven’t mentioned ‘gay sex’! What about my informal pension!!!
Well, your comment above is a function of your intepretation of events and your perception of the situation on the ground. I hope you do realise that perception and reality can on many occassions be miles apart from each other.
wasn’t buturo on the bill’s committee? if more than a year after the committee was tasked with debating, amending and passing the bill, a resigning *senior* member of the committee reveals that parliamentarians need to be coaxed into debating, amending and passing the bill…
Just because
Buturo has gone doesn’t
mean that the essential
problem has too.
this is true. though one wonders why it was necessary to plead with ugandans to push their parliamentarians to debate, amend and pass the bill… plain obsession? …maybe he has reason to fear that the anti gay puddle will dry up quicker without frequent irrigation from loud mouths with big titles (the resigning ninety whatever percent of ugandans)? …who knows? …Maazi?
‘Maazi’
My wish for today is that I get £10 for every time you mention ‘gay sex’ (something that clearly ‘excites’ you enormously). I might then be able to retire early!
The principal issue regarding the Bahitler Bill is not ‘gay sex’ at all, of course, but the desire on the part of some to imprison and/or murder innocent Ugandans.
Just because
Buturo has gone doesn’t
mean that the essential
problem has too.
this is true. though one wonders why it was necessary to plead with ugandans to push their parliamentarians to debate, amend and pass the bill… plain obsession? …maybe he has reason to fear that the anti gay puddle will dry up quicker without frequent irrigation from loud mouths with big titles (the resigning ninety whatever percent of ugandans)? …who knows? …Maazi?
And I’m sure Anteros would say the same.
I agree, ‘Maazi’. Just because Buturo has gone doesn’t mean that the essential problem has too.
RE: THE RESIGNATION OF JAMES NSABA BUTURO
Last year, I recall saying the following in this thread
A few days ago, I reiterated the point again in another thread:
One could also say that Buturo’s presence or absence in public office makes no difference to the resolve of the Ugandan people to act against promotion of sexual deviance. Ministers come and go. Before Nsaba Buturo’s assumption of his cabinet position, there was the woman rights activist and lawyer, Madam Miria Matembe. As Minister for Ethics & Integrity, Madame Miria Matembe combated promoters of gayism until she was sacked for criticizing the removal of Presidential term limits from the constitution. It is highly unlikely that anyone who succeeds Buturo in office would change direction. I admit that there might be a difference in strategy. For instance, I do not expect his successor in office to be as vociferous as Buturo in confronting Western interference in Ugandan affairs. But in the final analysis, there would be no change in substance and direction with regards to official treatment of militant gay sex advocacy.
‘Maazi’
My wish for today is that I get £10 for every time you mention ‘gay sex’ (something that clearly ‘excites’ you enormously). I might then be able to retire early!
The principal issue regarding the Bahitler Bill is not ‘gay sex’ at all, of course, but the desire on the part of some to imprison and/or murder innocent Ugandans.
And I’m sure Anteros would say the same.
RE: THE RESIGNATION OF JAMES NSABA BUTURO
Last year, I recall saying the following in this thread
A few days ago, I reiterated the point again in another thread:
One could also say that Buturo’s presence or absence in public office makes no difference to the resolve of the Ugandan people to act against promotion of sexual deviance. Ministers come and go. Before Nsaba Buturo’s assumption of his cabinet position, there was the woman rights activist and lawyer, Madam Miria Matembe. As Minister for Ethics & Integrity, Madame Miria Matembe combated promoters of gayism until she was sacked for criticizing the removal of Presidential term limits from the constitution. It is highly unlikely that anyone who succeeds Buturo in office would change direction. I admit that there might be a difference in strategy. For instance, I do not expect his successor in office to be as vociferous as Buturo in confronting Western interference in Ugandan affairs. But in the final analysis, there would be no change in substance and direction with regards to official treatment of militant gay sex advocacy.
It seems he was ‘sacked’ the Prime Minister:
http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/749178
about buturo’s resignation:
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2011/03/15/31325
buturo resigned today.
looks like maazi’s ninety whatever percent of ugandans has just dropped to forty something percent.
@ anteros :
It is indeed a great shame that the existence of the Bill is apparently hurting the Ugandan economy at a time when food, and many other, prices are soaring.
The fact that development partners have tended to give ‘the benefit of the doubt’ in the past does strongly suggest that it is principally the existence of this proposed savage and discriminatory legislation that leading to this new, tougher, approach. Deeply regrettable. The sooner the Bill is killed, the better for everyone.
about donors having more sway than the electorate… goes to show that elections are meaningless under the prevailing circumstances, especially if the electorate can be kept poor and ignorant enough to be bought using diverted donor aid and if donors can be appeased enough to keep the money coming in, unknowingly feeding the hidden interests of the corrupt.
meanwhile we have the gal to waste years of over-inflated taxpayer-funded parliamentary salaries debating unconstitutional and discriminatory laws that punish the private sexual activities of consenting adults.
richard, buturo himself repeatedly urged donors to go ahead and cut aid over the bill, he started provoking donors that way even months before the actual bill was introduced. now here he is begging donors to be patient… over a corruption scandal from 2007, never ending “investigations”, known thugs going unprosecuted, stolen money unrecovered to this day – despite agreeing with donors on a clean up plan with deadlines. using elections as an excuse for not meeting the agreed deadline is shocking – given the electorate’s clear priority on anti corruption results, elections should have been reason enough to meet that deadline. if both the electorate and donors couldn’t get them to deliver results on their anti corruption promises, then no amount of patience will deliver results. buturo is basically admitting that the ugandan government respects donors more than the electorate.
ethics and integrity? …really?
wasnt maazi whining about donors merely talking about reconsidering their aid packages in response to bahati’s unconstitutional bill rather than cutting aid over corruption?
buturo. urgh.
Another indication of how the Bill may have unnecessarily riled development partners … the Dutch say ‘no’ to Buturo’s pleas for help: http://www.newvision.co.ug/D/8/13/748484?highlight&q=buturo
@ anteros
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
(‘Maazi’ is perfectly entitled to criticise aspects of other countries if he wishes, and has done so frequently in the past.)
Latest development …
Desperately wanting to be loved by someone, Buturo seeks to attract gays to add to the 60 he claims he has already recruited for his ‘therapy’:
http://www.ugandaurgentaction.com/buturo'ssuggeste.html
(But dear old Butty-boy has made a factual error, of course: same-sex activity IS observed in many animal species – over 500 in fact.)
…i’m waiting for him to go on about sharia law and islamophobic laws as examples of shining beacons of sovereignty that uganda should aspire towards.
Maazi cracks me up! his selective “mind your business” stance sounds like an infant’s retort… it’s not practical, and it’s not sustainable… and it’s not in the best interests of any state, developing or developed, to court isolation – especially not in the name of violating its citizens’ constitutional rights and persecuting minorities… think about it. it seems irrational hate and militant intolerance has overexcited some people to blindness and irrelevance.
…i’m waiting for him to go on about sharia law and islamophobic laws as examples of shining beacons of sovereignty that uganda should aspire towards.
Maazi cracks me up! his selective “mind your business” stance sounds like an infant’s retort… it’s not practical, and it’s not sustainable… and it’s not in the best interests of any state, developing or developed, to court isolation – especially not in the name of violating its citizens’ constitutional rights and persecuting minorities… think about it. it seems irrational hate and militant intolerance has overexcited some people to blindness and irrelevance.
@ Lloyd
‘Maazi’s’ rudeness is always comforting: the ruder he is, the ‘closer to the mark’ one has hit. When he at his rudest and most dismissive, one knows one is ‘onto something’!
@ Lloyd
‘Maazi’s’ rudeness is always comforting: the ruder he is, the ‘closer to the mark’ one has hit. When he at his rudest and most dismissive, one knows one is ‘onto something’!
Anyway, my advice (which might be heeded – who knows?) would be not to send taxpayers to prison, or to the gallows, because they happen to be gay, or campaign for human rights. Very bad economics.
What happened to those communal granaries that people used to be able to access in hard times, by the way?
Just spoken with two Ugandan friends*: soap now more expensive (in nominal terms, and not relative to incomes) than in Britain. I don’t understand it; it’s really tough.
* They are both straight, by the way – so no need for anyone to get all excited.
I’m just commenting, ‘Maazi’. This is the internet (and not Ugandan territory) – and I’m perfectly free to comment.
It seems that there are lot of ‘Ugandan affairs’ going on.
You have absolutely no locus standi to interfere on Ugandan affairs. Please go and address pressing economic matters in your own country.
Try again (I was trying to do things at once):-
So you don’t want to comment meaningfully on the important current issues. OK.
But I will: you have repeatedly said how wicked the West is. I can however assure you that, in the U.K. (which has a similar number of 10 – 14 year olds as UG), the number of girls abused by their male teachers is nowhere near 40,000 per annum. The obsession that too many (though by no means all) Ugandans have with indulging in gay bashing may be blinding them to more pressing and serious matters.
So you don’t want to comment meaningfully on the important current issues. OK.
But I will: you have repeatedly how wicked the West is. I can however assure you that the number of girls abused by their male teachers is nowhere near 40,000 per annum. The obsession that too many (though by no means all) Ugandans have with indulging in gay bashing may be blinding them to more pressing matters.
Anyway, my advice (which might be heeded – who knows?) would be not to send taxpayers to prison, or to the gallows, because they happen to be gay, or campaign for human rights. Very bad economics.
What happened to those communal granaries that people used to be able to access in hard times, by the way?
Actually Richard is very relevant.You don’t have to be from Uganda to know about what is going on there.It is astonishing that Ugandans can go on and on about how sacred the children are (which of course they are) and in the same breath be quite comfortable about degrading fellow human beings and advocating for their deaths or other such horrible things.Why are people so OBSESSED with gay sex? It is simply abnormal to be so hateful and involved in something.Gay people in any country are a minority – they are not part of an army wanting to take over, they are not trying to recruit people, most thank God do not abuse children: the majority just want to live in peace.As they said in the 60s Keep your law off my body! And in thiscase, Ugandans bodies!
You have absolutely no locus standi to interfere on Ugandan affairs. Please go and address pressing economic matters in your own country.
So you don’t want to comment meaningfully on the important current issues. OK.
But I will: you have repeatedly how wicked the West is. I can however assure you that the number of girls abused by their male teachers is nowhere near 40,000 per annum. The obsession that too many (though by no means all) Ugandans have with indulging in gay bashing may be blinding them to more pressing matters.
POINT OF CORRECTION:
The above quote should have read:
You are just repeating yourself all over again. To refresh YOUR mind on my position, please re-read my earlier comments on this page and the ones on the other thread
No I don’t.
You are just repeating yourself all over again. To refresh my mind on my position, please re-read my earlier comments on this page and the ones on the other thread
Ahhh – so you DO support the idea of effectively decriminalising private consensual sexual relations. (You’ve given ‘mixed message’ on this one in the past.)
What about the ‘real’ issues of the day (food prices, 40,000+ abused girls, unrest in Kampala)? Any thoughts on those? Or does gay sex interest you more?
I am neither an European nor American. I am African living in a largely communal society. So a problem doesn’t have to affect me personally before I can deal with it.
Nope !!! I have no wish to expose and punish anyone. But I am keen to see legislation that punishes anyone who exposes his/her sexual deviance in public and then publicly demand special dispensation to violate the sex crime laws in the name of “gay rights”.
@ John
We posted simultaneously. Of course, your point strikes me as entirely to the logical mind.
Let’s return to the three big current issues:-
1. those soaring food prices (which are very worrying – my UG friends are really hurting as a result of these),
2. the 43,000 or so female victims of child sex abuse, and
3. growing unrest in Kampala.
Good governance involves setting proper priorities, and I hope the ‘sensible ones’ in the UG body-politic will do just that.
(I’m trying to be helpful here. I have many UG friends and do care about UG’s welfare.)
I’m curious as to why the term “militant gay sex” is since that would imply coercion. Gay sex can be consensual, in which case it may very well be viewed as an intimate encounter between two love birds within the confines of their humble abode. Seems to me that the “militant” part of the phrase is grossly inaccurate.
Perhaps Maazi should be given a talk about the birds and the bees. Some things, like who you fall in love with, aren’t chosen. And what two love birds do behind closed doors shouldn’t really concern him.
But it does seem to be a problem for you personally. You keep wanting to expose and punish fellow Ugandans who are doing you no harm at all.
It is not an issue because the law of the land is clear on such matters. The problem here is existing gaps in legislation that has encouraged misguided elements to engage in militant gay sex advocacy and youth sensitization.
Why are private consensual sexual relations such a problem for you, dear?
We have loads of local NGOs and women activists dealing with that matter and there is existing legislation which needs to be robustly enforced by the police
No thank you. There is need for correct legislation to tackle gay sex advocacy and associated youth sensitization. Therefore work on that matter must go on. I find it absurd and insulting that a foreigner should ask me to ignore one serious problem I can help solve in order to focus on another serious problem already being addressed by people more capable than myself.
Anyway, ‘Maazi’, let’s return to the issue of all these poor girls who are being abused and exploited by men. It’s a very serious matter; perhaps you should take a break from your gay bashing and consider this very real, and horrible, problem?
You tell me – after all, I’m just an ignorant foreigner, aren’t I?
??????????
You don’t say !!
Is it?
It is in Uganda. No wonder why you cannot see it in London.
I am sure you are right when in the territorial jurisdiction of the United Kingdom. But in the Republic of Uganda, consent is no excuse for you to violate the law of the land or incite others to violate the law of the land. Those who don’t like the Ugandan law of the land can always emigrate.
The Anti-Hetero Bill was a joke, of course!
Is the NRM ‘liberal’, by the way?
You’re rattled, ‘Maazi’!
What a joke. I can claim that all my British friends support the summary execution of shop-lifters by French guillotine. Your comment is neither here nor there. The reality is that most Ugandans want legislation to keep militant gay sex advocacy contained in order to preserve social stability. Its as simple as that. I am sure your tiny band of liberal elite African friends know this.
My Ugandan friends (many of whom are probably rather ‘straighter’ than you are*) find my observations most relevant, thank you!
* They don’t feel the need to keep ’tilting at gay sex militancy windmills’.
What ‘gay sex militancy’? Where is this ‘gay sex militancy’ of which you keep speaking? Noone is saying that you must have gay sex if you don’t want to – quite the contrary: you should only have gay sex if you choose to consent to it, ‘Maazi’.
POINT OF CORRECTION:
It should have read as follows:
And I see that you are struggling very hard to make YOUR irrelevant self relevant in the affairs of the Ugandan people.
And I see that you are struggling very hard to make irrelevant self relevant in the affairs of the Ugandan people.
Thanks for the suggestion Mr. Londoner, but we have legislation dealing with the matter reported in the web link you provided. All that is required is enforcement of the law. In the case of gay advocacy and sensitization of the youths, there isn’t correct legislation yet in existence. This is where you expose your ignorance of Uganda. Long before David Bahati entered parliament and formulated his bill, it was always on the cards that the scope of the sodomy law would be expanded to make it more effective in line with the recommendations of one of our nation’s professional bodies. Combating gay sex militancy is a matter that transcends Bahati, Buturo, Ssempa or evangelicals who are merely its most visible and vocal supporters. There is absolutely no way the Ugandan State can allow such a depraved militancy directed externally from Europe and USA to spiral out of control and potentially spark social unrest.
‘Maazi’
Welcome back! I see you are as rude and irrelevant as ever!
The Monitor article of two days ago also cited the Bill, but named other bills as ‘critical’.
http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1121436/-/c41c0vz/-/index.html
Meanwhile, it might seem to some that an Anti-HETEROsexuality Bill could be a good idea: http://allafrica.com/stories/200808040078.html
Naaah !! State Department people are too cautious and wimpy. I suggest the Pentagon. Then re-draft Donald “there-are-known-unknowns” Rumsfeld and Paul “da Wolf” Wolfowitz to work alongside the Euro-American Gay Lobby to do the necessary propaganda work required to justify a “humanitarian” US military intervention such as “Operation GayUganda Freedom”
POINT OF CORRECTION:
The above quote should have read:
You are just repeating yourself all over again. To refresh YOUR mind on my position, please re-read my earlier comments on this page and the ones on the other thread
No I don’t.
You are just repeating yourself all over again. To refresh my mind on my position, please re-read my earlier comments on this page and the ones on the other thread
I will pass along your strategy to the State Dept…
Yes, Yes,Yes. Perhaps, the United States Airforce (USAF) should drop a bomb on the Parliament of Uganda at night when it is empty. In that way, the parliamentarians will not be able to return to their duties and are therefore effectively “handicapped” until way after May 2011. Is it possible that USAF Colonel Warren Throckmorton could lead the fleet of USAF bombers on “Operation GayUganda Freedom”? Someone could win a Pink (er sorry, “Purple”) Heart Medal from President Barack Obama II for such a mission, but then who knows?
Ahhh – so you DO support the idea of effectively decriminalising private consensual sexual relations. (You’ve given ‘mixed message’ on this one in the past.)
What about the ‘real’ issues of the day (food prices, 40,000+ abused girls, unrest in Kampala)? Any thoughts on those? Or does gay sex interest you more?
I am neither an European nor American. I am African living in a largely communal society. So a problem doesn’t have to affect me personally before I can deal with it.
Nope !!! I have no wish to expose and punish anyone. But I am keen to see legislation that punishes anyone who exposes his/her sexual deviance in public and then publicly demand special dispensation to violate the sex crime laws in the name of “gay rights”.
It is not an issue because the law of the land is clear on such matters. The problem here is existing gaps in legislation that has encouraged misguided elements to engage in militant gay sex advocacy and youth sensitization.
Why are private consensual sexual relations such a problem for you, dear?
We have loads of local NGOs and women activists dealing with that matter and there is existing legislation which needs to be robustly enforced by the police
No thank you. There is need for correct legislation to tackle gay sex advocacy and associated youth sensitization. Therefore work on that matter must go on. I find it absurd and insulting that a foreigner should ask me to ignore one serious problem I can help solve in order to focus on another serious problem already being addressed by people more capable than myself.
Anyway, ‘Maazi’, let’s return to the issue of all these poor girls who are being abused and exploited by men. It’s a very serious matter; perhaps you should take a break from your gay bashing and consider this very real, and horrible, problem?
You tell me – after all, I’m just an ignorant foreigner, aren’t I?
??????????
You don’t say !!
Is it?
You’re rattled, ‘Maazi’!
What a joke. I can claim that all my British friends support the summary execution of shop-lifters by French guillotine. Your comment is neither here nor there. The reality is that most Ugandans want legislation to keep militant gay sex advocacy contained in order to preserve social stability. Its as simple as that. I am sure your tiny band of liberal elite African friends know this.
And I see that you are struggling very hard to make irrelevant self relevant in the affairs of the Ugandan people.
Thanks for the suggestion Mr. Londoner, but we have legislation dealing with the matter reported in the web link you provided. All that is required is enforcement of the law. In the case of gay advocacy and sensitization of the youths, there isn’t correct legislation yet in existence. This is where you expose your ignorance of Uganda. Long before David Bahati entered parliament and formulated his bill, it was always on the cards that the scope of the sodomy law would be expanded to make it more effective in line with the recommendations of one of our nation’s professional bodies. Combating gay sex militancy is a matter that transcends Bahati, Buturo, Ssempa or evangelicals who are merely its most visible and vocal supporters. There is absolutely no way the Ugandan State can allow such a depraved militancy directed externally from Europe and USA to spiral out of control and potentially spark social unrest.