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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/10/14/one-year-later-ugandas-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90443</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I doubt that any individual gay or lesbian in Uganda at this time much cares that you accept any of what you name. What they would like to see is that their rights of association and privacy be upheld and not condemned in law and that the exercise of those rights should not preclude any other right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Lynn Davids, 

Please do not get carried away by your successes in the United States. In Africa, libertarian ideology is not widely accepted. We believe that individual rights must go hand in hand with responsibility and group rights. Our African Charter on Human Rights have been used successfully across Africa by private individuals to defend the rights of women, ethnic minorities, religious minorities, etc,  because it grants freedom from discrimination on grounds of race, gender, religion, socio-economic class and ethnicity. But the same Charter is crystal clear that any individual right must be exercised with due regards for common interest, security and morality. In fact, there are sections in the Charter devoted to group rights and the promotion of our cultural values, etc. Therefore any freedom of association that interferes with the right of Africans to maintain their cultural beliefs on the subject of family/community structure is null and void. This explains why gay lobby groups are refused recognition by the African Commission for Human and People&#039;s Rights (ACHPR) while groups associated with women rights, child rights, rights of poor people, rights of people living with AIDS, etc, are welcomed enthusiastically as partners of the ACHPR.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I doubt that any individual gay or lesbian in Uganda at this time much cares that you accept any of what you name. What they would like to see is that their rights of association and privacy be upheld and not condemned in law and that the exercise of those rights should not preclude any other right.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lynn Davids, </p>
<p>Please do not get carried away by your successes in the United States. In Africa, libertarian ideology is not widely accepted. We believe that individual rights must go hand in hand with responsibility and group rights. Our African Charter on Human Rights have been used successfully across Africa by private individuals to defend the rights of women, ethnic minorities, religious minorities, etc,  because it grants freedom from discrimination on grounds of race, gender, religion, socio-economic class and ethnicity. But the same Charter is crystal clear that any individual right must be exercised with due regards for common interest, security and morality. In fact, there are sections in the Charter devoted to group rights and the promotion of our cultural values, etc. Therefore any freedom of association that interferes with the right of Africans to maintain their cultural beliefs on the subject of family/community structure is null and void. This explains why gay lobby groups are refused recognition by the African Commission for Human and People&#8217;s Rights (ACHPR) while groups associated with women rights, child rights, rights of poor people, rights of people living with AIDS, etc, are welcomed enthusiastically as partners of the ACHPR.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Maazi, fortunately, is not the typical African, or Ugandan. Carrying a huge chip aggressively around. And, I am a Ugandan, not Rwandese.&#060;/blockquote



GayUganda,



I understand your need to apologize for Westerners who bankroll your propaganda. It wouldn&#038;#039t make sense to antagonize the very people who are your greatest fans. I completely understand. I will probably argue that it is you who is not a typical African since a typical African man will marry a lady, procreate and look after his nuclear and extended family as dictated by established African customs and tradition. Defending sodomy and rallying a foreign movement to back you up is not typically African at all. I will argue that its quite un-African.



&lt;blockquote&gt;What we would like is our lives not threatened by execution, judicial or non judicial, for loving our lovers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Well, all you have to do is obey the law of the land. In Uganda, gayism is a sex crime and it is the responsibility of the State to prosecute those who fall foul of the law. Its as simple as that. If you don&#039;t like it then emigrate to the West. BTW, it is brilliant propaganda to keep insisting that you are in constant danger of being executed by the Ugandan State. I guess it is a good rallying cry for your Western fans.



&lt;blockquote&gt;But, denying our humanity in the name of not giving in to the &#039;homosexual agenda&#039; is what drives those who feel so much hate of us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



This is just your propaganda speaking. There is indeed a Gay Agenda for Africa funded and packaged by Western NGOs and pushed by people like you. I can accept that no private individual or group of individuals should be allowed to take the law into their own hands in the form of vigilante violence against criminals. But it is the right of the State to prosecute people who are guilty of any offence including the sex crime you are defending.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maazi, fortunately, is not the typical African, or Ugandan. Carrying a huge chip aggressively around. And, I am a Ugandan, not Rwandese.&#060;/blockquote</p>
<p>GayUganda,</p>
<p>I understand your need to apologize for Westerners who bankroll your propaganda. It wouldn&amp;#039t make sense to antagonize the very people who are your greatest fans. I completely understand. I will probably argue that it is you who is not a typical African since a typical African man will marry a lady, procreate and look after his nuclear and extended family as dictated by established African customs and tradition. Defending sodomy and rallying a foreign movement to back you up is not typically African at all. I will argue that its quite un-African.</p>
<blockquote><p>What we would like is our lives not threatened by execution, judicial or non judicial, for loving our lovers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, all you have to do is obey the law of the land. In Uganda, gayism is a sex crime and it is the responsibility of the State to prosecute those who fall foul of the law. Its as simple as that. If you don&#8217;t like it then emigrate to the West. BTW, it is brilliant propaganda to keep insisting that you are in constant danger of being executed by the Ugandan State. I guess it is a good rallying cry for your Western fans.</p>
<blockquote><p>But, denying our humanity in the name of not giving in to the &#8216;homosexual agenda&#8217; is what drives those who feel so much hate of us.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is just your propaganda speaking. There is indeed a Gay Agenda for Africa funded and packaged by Western NGOs and pushed by people like you. I can accept that no private individual or group of individuals should be allowed to take the law into their own hands in the form of vigilante violence against criminals. But it is the right of the State to prosecute people who are guilty of any offence including the sex crime you are defending.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Lynn David		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Maazi... &lt;/strong&gt; ...if you think that the Ugandan people will bend over and accept rubbish ideology such as gayism, same-sex marriage or gay adoption rights then you clearly deluded.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I doubt that any individual gay or lesbian in Uganda at this time much cares that you accept any of what you name.  What they would like to see is that their rights of association and privacy be upheld and not condemned in law and that the exercise of those rights should not preclude any other right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Maazi&#8230; </strong> &#8230;if you think that the Ugandan people will bend over and accept rubbish ideology such as gayism, same-sex marriage or gay adoption rights then you clearly deluded.</p></blockquote>
<p>I doubt that any individual gay or lesbian in Uganda at this time much cares that you accept any of what you name.  What they would like to see is that their rights of association and privacy be upheld and not condemned in law and that the exercise of those rights should not preclude any other right.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/10/14/one-year-later-ugandas-anti-homosexuality-bill/#comment-90433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, let me see, of the examples of genocide, how many were justified by &#039;we the majority&#039; dont like the minority?&lt;/blockquote&gt;



GayUganda

It seems you are a bit slow. I have said repeatedly on this blog that I do not support crude provisions within the Bahati Bill and I have no interest in getting anyone killed. Most Ugandans also have no interest in getting anyone killed that is why proxies for the euro-american gay lobby--- such as David Kato, Frank Mushiga, Pepe Julian Onziema and co--- are able to live openly in Uganda and make high-profile comments to the local and international press. If there was a threat of genocide or pogroms against sex deviants, they would have fled our country a long time ago. All this talk of a Nazi-style genocide in the making is just false propaganda, which may draw sympathy of western ignoramuses who think Africa is a country, but it will not change our minds on the need to place stringent legal restrictions on sodomy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now, let me see, of the examples of genocide, how many were justified by &#8216;we the majority&#8217; dont like the minority?</p></blockquote>
<p>GayUganda</p>
<p>It seems you are a bit slow. I have said repeatedly on this blog that I do not support crude provisions within the Bahati Bill and I have no interest in getting anyone killed. Most Ugandans also have no interest in getting anyone killed that is why proxies for the euro-american gay lobby&#8212; such as David Kato, Frank Mushiga, Pepe Julian Onziema and co&#8212; are able to live openly in Uganda and make high-profile comments to the local and international press. If there was a threat of genocide or pogroms against sex deviants, they would have fled our country a long time ago. All this talk of a Nazi-style genocide in the making is just false propaganda, which may draw sympathy of western ignoramuses who think Africa is a country, but it will not change our minds on the need to place stringent legal restrictions on sodomy.</p>
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		By: Maazi NCO		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maazi NCO]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, I remember the ethnic wars.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Yeah, like the Rodney King race riots that killed more than 50 people in the State of California in the 1990s or the Detroit race riots in Michigan State in the 1960s that killed loads of people or that of the State of Illinois and other race riots in numerous parts of the United States?



&lt;blockquote&gt;FYI, I have actually rejected numerous offers of asylum. Dont want to go there. That is not my aim. Nor does my partner want anything like that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



I couldn&#039;t care less what your motives are, but if you think that the Ugandan people will bend over and accept rubbish ideology such as gayism, same-sex marriage or gay adoption rights then you clearly deluded. Keep thinking endlessly of the day when you will be able to parade half-naked on streets of Kampala in the name of Gay Pride March or the day you will be able to &quot;marry&quot; another man on Ugandan soil. Unless the foreigners you are mobilizing  with your false propaganda are going to invade our nation, displace the native population, import Western settlers and run Uganda as the 51st state of USA or as an EU trusteeship territory, there is absolutely no hope whatsoever that you will achieve your devious objective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, I remember the ethnic wars.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, like the Rodney King race riots that killed more than 50 people in the State of California in the 1990s or the Detroit race riots in Michigan State in the 1960s that killed loads of people or that of the State of Illinois and other race riots in numerous parts of the United States?</p>
<blockquote><p>FYI, I have actually rejected numerous offers of asylum. Dont want to go there. That is not my aim. Nor does my partner want anything like that.</p></blockquote>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t care less what your motives are, but if you think that the Ugandan people will bend over and accept rubbish ideology such as gayism, same-sex marriage or gay adoption rights then you clearly deluded. Keep thinking endlessly of the day when you will be able to parade half-naked on streets of Kampala in the name of Gay Pride March or the day you will be able to &#8220;marry&#8221; another man on Ugandan soil. Unless the foreigners you are mobilizing  with your false propaganda are going to invade our nation, displace the native population, import Western settlers and run Uganda as the 51st state of USA or as an EU trusteeship territory, there is absolutely no hope whatsoever that you will achieve your devious objective.</p>
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