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		By: concerned		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/06/28/outing-of-pastor-leads-to-criticism/#comment-40069</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[concerned]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 23:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Horray for Hope Lutheran church, now I hope the journalists position is on the chopping block.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Horray for Hope Lutheran church, now I hope the journalists position is on the chopping block.</p>
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		By: Timothy Kincaid		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/06/28/outing-of-pastor-leads-to-criticism/#comment-40068</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timothy Kincaid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI, AP story:



&lt;blockquote&gt;A Lutheran pastor in Minneapolis who opposes homosexuals being allowed to lead congregations says he is attracted to men but says he&#039;s not a hypocrite because he never acted on his urges.



The Rev. Tom Brock told The Associated Press on Monday that he has known for many years that he is attracted to men. He says he is still a virgin at age 57 and doesn&#039;t consider himself gay because he hasn&#039;t acted on his attraction.



Brock&#039;s sexuality became an issue after a gay magazine reported on his membership in a support group for Christians battling same-sex attraction. Brock was put on leave while a task force at Hope Lutheran Church looked into the matter.



Hope Lutheran&#039;s executive pastor says the task force found Brock credible, and he was back in the pulpit on Sunday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, AP story:</p>
<blockquote><p>A Lutheran pastor in Minneapolis who opposes homosexuals being allowed to lead congregations says he is attracted to men but says he&#8217;s not a hypocrite because he never acted on his urges.</p>
<p>The Rev. Tom Brock told The Associated Press on Monday that he has known for many years that he is attracted to men. He says he is still a virgin at age 57 and doesn&#8217;t consider himself gay because he hasn&#8217;t acted on his attraction.</p>
<p>Brock&#8217;s sexuality became an issue after a gay magazine reported on his membership in a support group for Christians battling same-sex attraction. Brock was put on leave while a task force at Hope Lutheran Church looked into the matter.</p>
<p>Hope Lutheran&#8217;s executive pastor says the task force found Brock credible, and he was back in the pulpit on Sunday.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/06/28/outing-of-pastor-leads-to-criticism/#comment-40067</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 04:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@All



&lt;blockquote&gt;No one is saying Courage &lt;strong&gt;CANNOT&lt;/strong&gt; footnote the idea of secular therapy for an individual. That’s a given. It’s taking that footnote and making it coincident with chastity … a necessity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@All</p>
<blockquote><p>No one is saying Courage <strong>CANNOT</strong> footnote the idea of secular therapy for an individual. That’s a given. It’s taking that footnote and making it coincident with chastity … a necessity.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Teresa		</title>
		<link>https://wthrockmorton.com/2010/06/28/outing-of-pastor-leads-to-criticism/#comment-40066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teresa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 02:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[concerned,



Courage is no longer allowing the individual their own discernment regarding SSA.  That&#039;s the point.  If you want to belong to Courage, you cannot espouse even the thought of questioning the mixing of the secular and the religious.  I&#039;ve been branded pretty much a heretic for even questioning NARTH support by Courage.



The etiology of SSA according to NARTH is constantly pervading every meeting, every publication, every Conference of Courage.



Courage has been given one mandate only by the Catholic Church and that is to help homosexuals achieve chastity ... by its 5 Goals ... none of which speaks of SSA etiology.  The Catholic Church is not a democracy even for Courage.  Courage is putting itself in the dangerous position of being suppressed by Diocesan or Vatican authority.  The Catholic Church, regardless of its current scandals, is seldom reckless enough to associate itself with &#039;theories&#039;, and would be loathe to have anyone speak in its Name, otherwise.



No one is saying Courage can footnote the idea of secular therapy for an individual.  That&#039;s a given.  It&#039;s taking that footnote and making it coincident with chastity ... a necessity.



I have found this site to be one of the best sites anywhere for fair, kind, sometimes spirited, discussion on the topic of sexual orientation.  I think Warren is to be commended for offering all of us this opportunity.  I am grateful for this.



When posting, I try to be courteous, and objective.  I suspect often, I fail.  For that, Warren is not to blame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>concerned,</p>
<p>Courage is no longer allowing the individual their own discernment regarding SSA.  That&#8217;s the point.  If you want to belong to Courage, you cannot espouse even the thought of questioning the mixing of the secular and the religious.  I&#8217;ve been branded pretty much a heretic for even questioning NARTH support by Courage.</p>
<p>The etiology of SSA according to NARTH is constantly pervading every meeting, every publication, every Conference of Courage.</p>
<p>Courage has been given one mandate only by the Catholic Church and that is to help homosexuals achieve chastity &#8230; by its 5 Goals &#8230; none of which speaks of SSA etiology.  The Catholic Church is not a democracy even for Courage.  Courage is putting itself in the dangerous position of being suppressed by Diocesan or Vatican authority.  The Catholic Church, regardless of its current scandals, is seldom reckless enough to associate itself with &#8216;theories&#8217;, and would be loathe to have anyone speak in its Name, otherwise.</p>
<p>No one is saying Courage can footnote the idea of secular therapy for an individual.  That&#8217;s a given.  It&#8217;s taking that footnote and making it coincident with chastity &#8230; a necessity.</p>
<p>I have found this site to be one of the best sites anywhere for fair, kind, sometimes spirited, discussion on the topic of sexual orientation.  I think Warren is to be commended for offering all of us this opportunity.  I am grateful for this.</p>
<p>When posting, I try to be courteous, and objective.  I suspect often, I fail.  For that, Warren is not to blame.</p>
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		By: concerned		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[concerned]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 02:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Theresa,

 &lt;em&gt;&quot;...why don’t they pay for the “treatable therapy” they espouse.&lt;/em&gt;



There must be some personal responsibility for ones program.   Courage allows for the individual to make their own discernment regarding their SSA, based on what their conscience is calling them to, within the context of living a chasted life.  That is so much more progressive than what the APA is currently promoting.    The APA does not have the final word on SSA and neither do those who promote the &quot;gay is wonderful&quot; agenda.   It does not work that way for everyone and the sooner this is recognized on this site the more open the discussion can be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Theresa,</p>
<p> <em>&#8220;&#8230;why don’t they pay for the “treatable therapy” they espouse.</em></p>
<p>There must be some personal responsibility for ones program.   Courage allows for the individual to make their own discernment regarding their SSA, based on what their conscience is calling them to, within the context of living a chasted life.  That is so much more progressive than what the APA is currently promoting.    The APA does not have the final word on SSA and neither do those who promote the &#8220;gay is wonderful&#8221; agenda.   It does not work that way for everyone and the sooner this is recognized on this site the more open the discussion can be.</p>
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