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	<description>A College Psychology Professor&#039;s Observations About Public Policy, Mental Health, Sexual Identity, and Religious Issues</description>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/10/23/ugandancoalitionspeaks/comment-page-2/#comment-217733</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas not only applauded Don Schmierer’s role in the March conference, he allowed Schmierer to make a statement that held little if any connection with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas not only applauded Don Schmierer’s role in the March conference, he allowed Schmierer to make a statement that held little if any connection with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/10/23/ugandancoalitionspeaks/comment-page-2/#comment-217684</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Since loudly applauding Don Schmierer’s role in the March conference, Exodus has released no press release condemning the legislation and its supporters. &lt;/blockquote&gt;True.  Has any established, conservative Christian group in the USA?  I have been combing the internet to try to find one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Since loudly applauding Don Schmierer’s role in the March conference, Exodus has released no press release condemning the legislation and its supporters. </p></blockquote>
<p>True.  Has any established, conservative Christian group in the USA?  I have been combing the internet to try to find one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Airhart, TWO</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/10/23/ugandancoalitionspeaks/comment-page-2/#comment-217681</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Airhart, TWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to topic (or thereabouts):

Randy Thomas still has not spoken up. He whispered an intentionally vague statement in one Exodus blog post.

Since loudly applauding Don Schmierer&#039;s role in the March conference, Exodus has released no press release condemning the legislation and its supporters. Exodus&#039; only action has been to advise blog readers to pray for someone else -- certainly not Exodus -- to take action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to topic (or thereabouts):</p>
<p>Randy Thomas still has not spoken up. He whispered an intentionally vague statement in one Exodus blog post.</p>
<p>Since loudly applauding Don Schmierer&#8217;s role in the March conference, Exodus has released no press release condemning the legislation and its supporters. Exodus&#8217; only action has been to advise blog readers to pray for someone else &#8212; certainly not Exodus &#8212; to take action.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/10/23/ugandancoalitionspeaks/comment-page-2/#comment-216419</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

You ought to be ashamed of yourself for your statement.  You are an embarrasment and not representative of my voice for human dignity.   Your suggestions are not the teachings of Christ and in NO WAY are you correct in your assertions.  You are a gross and disgusting example of an American and Christian and gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>You ought to be ashamed of yourself for your statement.  You are an embarrasment and not representative of my voice for human dignity.   Your suggestions are not the teachings of Christ and in NO WAY are you correct in your assertions.  You are a gross and disgusting example of an American and Christian and gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ban me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ban me.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank-
I&#039;ve been a part of many a heated conversation between adversaries here but it&#039;s my opinion that you are have seriously crossed some ethical lines here. Your last statement was outrageously offensive and definitely counter-productive to open dialogue. It is my hope that you are restricted from blogging here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank-<br />
I&#8217;ve been a part of many a heated conversation between adversaries here but it&#8217;s my opinion that you are have seriously crossed some ethical lines here. Your last statement was outrageously offensive and definitely counter-productive to open dialogue. It is my hope that you are restricted from blogging here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karoont,

Of course as an independent nation your country has every right to enact and enforce its own laws.  

I&#039;m not advocating that your nation be accpeting of homosexual, rapist and such.  I am hoping that those of your country will re-consider the impact it will have on those sinners who want to repent but can find no help for themselves when life imprisonment or death are the penalties for such.

I am an ex gay and my heart breaks for those who want to find help and will be hidden from help because of such penalties.  Hearts and lives do change but I have not known of a true transformation that was coerced or imposed by law.  It only hides the sinner and does not help the sinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karoont,</p>
<p>Of course as an independent nation your country has every right to enact and enforce its own laws.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not advocating that your nation be accpeting of homosexual, rapist and such.  I am hoping that those of your country will re-consider the impact it will have on those sinners who want to repent but can find no help for themselves when life imprisonment or death are the penalties for such.</p>
<p>I am an ex gay and my heart breaks for those who want to find help and will be hidden from help because of such penalties.  Hearts and lives do change but I have not known of a true transformation that was coerced or imposed by law.  It only hides the sinner and does not help the sinner.</p>
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		<title>By: kaaront</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaaront</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, 
It is shocking that you advocate for that, strange that you gay people, that is if you are, advocate for arson, Sorry but let us be able to make our own laws,

In Africa I  am because we are, and we are because I am. So whatever everyone does even in the secrecy of their bedroom affects the whole community...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,<br />
It is shocking that you advocate for that, strange that you gay people, that is if you are, advocate for arson, Sorry but let us be able to make our own laws,</p>
<p>In Africa I  am because we are, and we are because I am. So whatever everyone does even in the secrecy of their bedroom affects the whole community&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kaaront</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/10/23/ugandancoalitionspeaks/comment-page-2/#comment-216407</link>
		<dc:creator>kaaront</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bill in Uganda stands to deal with these issues. This bill is also an issue of separation, showing who is for God and who is not. The issue of homosexuality has no middle ground, you are either for it or against it. The bill is a government issue as it is mandated to do so. The bill stands for;

1.	The bill is about equal protection of the boys as currently accorded to girls against rapists and defilers and generally abuse. The law on defilement, especially aggravated defilement is punishable by death. So this bill is seeking to put a balance when a boy is defiled, that is a boy below 18, handicapped, or whose defiler is HIV Positive. Are we giving sodomy special status, It is unfair and unjust as well as unchristian. Most people speaking against this bill are unaware of the laws in the country and are speaking from ignorance.
2.	The bill is also intended to protect Uganda from homosexual conventions. It is a law that is consistent with our cultures and beliefs. Let America make their laws and let us make our own laws. Laws like the UN proposed law on homosexuality is trying to homosexualise us. It is to protect us against these decisions. 
3.	Protecting us from homosexual Propaganda and Bribery from European laws and conventions. 
4.	Protecting the territorial Integrity of people in Uganda.  We are concerned about people who make laws from wherever and want to impose them on us. Our Christian, Muslim, Cultural and Legal beliefs guide us that homosexuality is not only a perversion but also a natural abomination.
5.	The Bill is also to address Headmasters and those in Authority who are entrusted with children, and yet under their care, these children are victimized and raped by their bullies, yet Headmasters are afraid to speak because of fear for their schools and for them to keep a reputation. Thousands of hundreds are systematically raped and violated while those in authority keep quite. In other countries, people in Authority must report crimes of child abuse, and the law holds them liable if they fail to report these kinds of incidents.


As a Christian and to answer the question you have been asking me on Jesus, Jesus was right not to stone, as he continues to teach and show about grace and forgiveness, Jesus is God and knows the state of people&#039;s hearts so he choose to forgive, and so i would do the same as a christian, i would show mercy on homosexuals, however if the law catches up with them, which the government is working on, just like any crime, all i can do is to minister christ to them and not go to courts of law and defend their acts of evil, just like you guys are trying to do here, Homosexuality is a sin. I preach salvation to all. In law it is a crime, same as others, and in public health its spreading diseases, the most efficient way to spread HIV/AIDS- which is taking a lot of tax payers money in treatment and affecting family and friends. Rom 13:1-5 the bible says that there is a sword bearer to punish lawbreakers. So we preach grace, but the state promotes the law. The State is mandated to punish lawbreakers.

The issue of two consenting adults committing the same, it affects communities and lives of everyone, so we are concerned, their private affair becomes public when destroyed rectums have to be repaired in hospitals and when they get HIV/AIDS and affect the whole community. How about two consenting adults practicing female genital mutilation, are you ok with that. What does the law say; the law is against this same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bill in Uganda stands to deal with these issues. This bill is also an issue of separation, showing who is for God and who is not. The issue of homosexuality has no middle ground, you are either for it or against it. The bill is a government issue as it is mandated to do so. The bill stands for;</p>
<p>1.	The bill is about equal protection of the boys as currently accorded to girls against rapists and defilers and generally abuse. The law on defilement, especially aggravated defilement is punishable by death. So this bill is seeking to put a balance when a boy is defiled, that is a boy below 18, handicapped, or whose defiler is HIV Positive. Are we giving sodomy special status, It is unfair and unjust as well as unchristian. Most people speaking against this bill are unaware of the laws in the country and are speaking from ignorance.<br />
2.	The bill is also intended to protect Uganda from homosexual conventions. It is a law that is consistent with our cultures and beliefs. Let America make their laws and let us make our own laws. Laws like the UN proposed law on homosexuality is trying to homosexualise us. It is to protect us against these decisions.<br />
3.	Protecting us from homosexual Propaganda and Bribery from European laws and conventions.<br />
4.	Protecting the territorial Integrity of people in Uganda.  We are concerned about people who make laws from wherever and want to impose them on us. Our Christian, Muslim, Cultural and Legal beliefs guide us that homosexuality is not only a perversion but also a natural abomination.<br />
5.	The Bill is also to address Headmasters and those in Authority who are entrusted with children, and yet under their care, these children are victimized and raped by their bullies, yet Headmasters are afraid to speak because of fear for their schools and for them to keep a reputation. Thousands of hundreds are systematically raped and violated while those in authority keep quite. In other countries, people in Authority must report crimes of child abuse, and the law holds them liable if they fail to report these kinds of incidents.</p>
<p>As a Christian and to answer the question you have been asking me on Jesus, Jesus was right not to stone, as he continues to teach and show about grace and forgiveness, Jesus is God and knows the state of people&#8217;s hearts so he choose to forgive, and so i would do the same as a christian, i would show mercy on homosexuals, however if the law catches up with them, which the government is working on, just like any crime, all i can do is to minister christ to them and not go to courts of law and defend their acts of evil, just like you guys are trying to do here, Homosexuality is a sin. I preach salvation to all. In law it is a crime, same as others, and in public health its spreading diseases, the most efficient way to spread HIV/AIDS- which is taking a lot of tax payers money in treatment and affecting family and friends. Rom 13:1-5 the bible says that there is a sword bearer to punish lawbreakers. So we preach grace, but the state promotes the law. The State is mandated to punish lawbreakers.</p>
<p>The issue of two consenting adults committing the same, it affects communities and lives of everyone, so we are concerned, their private affair becomes public when destroyed rectums have to be repaired in hospitals and when they get HIV/AIDS and affect the whole community. How about two consenting adults practicing female genital mutilation, are you ok with that. What does the law say; the law is against this same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaaront: I echo Eddy&#039;s question. Jesus was the only one in the crowd who had no sin and thus could have cast a stone. He did not. Others did not because they were prevented by their awareness of their own sin. 

Why are you willing to consider Jesus&#039; example to be incorrect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaaront: I echo Eddy&#8217;s question. Jesus was the only one in the crowd who had no sin and thus could have cast a stone. He did not. Others did not because they were prevented by their awareness of their own sin. </p>
<p>Why are you willing to consider Jesus&#8217; example to be incorrect?</p>
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