When applied to Christians, they are easily identified as a form of prejudice and bigotry…

That’s OK, better Christians than we have endured much worse. Let’s toughen up and call it what it is…

suppression of free speech, religious bigotry, secular attempts to suppress religious points of view.

I think the qualifier here is “when applied to Christians…”

Fox is not Christian…tends to be Conservative.

I can tell you my ideology doesn’t take well to conversations where terms like “childish drivel” and statements like, “people with half a brain cell” are tossed around, but if yours does, more power.

And the jump David made so quickly from Fox to Christians is hardly a stretch, but I’ll leave it there.

Obama is getting his fair share of bashing, some deserved, some not,

I did not say all the attacks were fair, did I?

David is the one that took the Obama administration’s calling Fox news a fake news organization and expanded it to ad-hom attacks on Christians and then called it religious suppression. Then you agreed with him.

David made two separate points. ‘Twas you who tried to make it sound as if he’d linked the Fox News attacks with Christian-bashing. I agreed with David, not you. We have not said Obama is attacking Christians. Plenty of people in secular la la land are attacking us, however.

Your attempt at logic isn’t working, Brady. You also may want to take note of the fact that some of us here have made strong statements denouncing some of our fellow Christians in Uganda who deserve to be denounced. Got any secular liberals you want to denounce? Actually, I don’t know your ideology.

This is childish drivel when there is much more important work to be done.

Unfortunatey that’s what happens when you are in the public eye. But, to say that the attcks on her were anti-woman or anti-Christian and then to say the attacks against Obama were just fair attacks isn’t an unbiased analysis of the situation.

I never said Fox news was a Christian organization–David is the one that took the Obama administration’s calling Fox news a fake news organization and expanded it to ad-hom attacks on Christians and then called it religious suppression. Then you agreed with him. I’m wondering how you guys made that kind of a jump. The implication from the statement that there is some anti-Christian attacks going on here from the Obama administration. I’m trying to figure how you guys are making that connection.

“People with a brain can tell the difference.” Speaking of ad hominem attacks–would that be one? Maybe just an implied one, I guess.

Debbie- are you saying any time someone speaks unfavorably about a woman, a Christian, or a conservative they are anti- those things?

Brady, would you call the smear attacks on Palin merely “unfavorable” reports? There is a definite distinction between the two. Palin suffered both, deservedly and undeservedly, IMO. People with a brain can tell the difference.

So, if the President talks bad about Fox News it’s anti-Christian (I’m still unsure how or why), and if the media talks bad about Palin, they are anti-Christian and anti-woman, but if Fox News talks bad about Obama then they are just reporting the facts?

Since when did Fox News become a Christian organ? Hannity and O’Reilly are Catholic and Beck is Mormon, as far as I know. THey are the big three at Fox liberals loves to hate. The media is far more worked up over anything evangelical — Palin has evangelical, even Pentecostal ties — than they are about mainstream religion or however we want to classify Mormonism.

Obama is getting his fair share of bashing, some deserved, some not, just like all sitting presidents.

Debbie- are you saying any time someone speaks unfavorably about a woman, a Christian, or a conservative they are anti- those things?

So, if the President talks bad about Fox News it’s anti-Christian (I’m still unsure how or why), and if the media talks bad about Palin, they are anti-Christian and anti-woman, but if Fox News talks bad about Obama then they are just reporting the facts?

Sounds kind of like the victimhood strategy most conservatives I listen to seem to despise.

What was it when Sarah Palin was railing against the “liberal media?” Just regular attempt to suppress free speech, or also religious suppresion?

Self-defense, and also defense of her family. With Palin, the media got a three-fer: anti-woman, anti-Christian and anti-conservative. Hillary Clinton also took hits for being a woman, I believe.

I think you meant me .

What was it when Sarah Palin was railing against the “liberal media?” Just regular attempt to suppress free speech, or also religious suppresion?