Oh, it’s in the first article, written in 2001

Throckmorton has reviewed this literature, as well as the few more recent studies, and concluded that there is support for the effectiveness of approaches seeking to modify patterns of homosexual arousal41 For example, psychoanalytic approaches obtained change rates to exclusive heterosexuality ranging from 18% to 44%, with rates for shifts in orientation tending to be even higher.

I am so proud of myself — I cut and paste this. I’m so techno!

Did I read somewhere that you think maybe around 15% of people experience some shift, if not “categorical”?

Katie

He expressed no interest in looking into this or stepping up to the plate and rebuking Cameron’s “abhorrent solutions” — as you have done.

He also expressed no interest in speaking directly to ex-gay survivors to really determine, first hand, whether or not the NARTH/reparative therapy does harm.

He further accuses me of believing that people (1) have no “right” to seem help for their unwanted SSA and (2) that professionals should be prohibited from provding such “help”.

As you know, I don’t believe either of these things.

You do read the posts!! Wow.

I’m talking about the article who’s link is provided above — by Michael Bussee. Two comments back in this thread.

K.

What exactly are you referring to?

What does Warren (that’s you) think the percent is?

Thanks,
Katie

Really? Then why does NARTH repeatedly cite his “research”? http://www.narth.com/menus/search.html?cx=007457206426124633447%3Adybvfspccfw&cof=FORID%3A11&q=cameron&sa=go#2090

LOL … don’t get me going down that path…. maybe I like Rob precisely because he’s gay and I’ll always just be a Grace with a Will….

Katie

Imagine that not all men are booze guzzling, mindless, animals

LOL. Only the straight ones! Sorry, your comment reminded me of my own perceptions of ‘typical straights’ or ‘typical breeders’ that God needed to deliver me from. How amazed I was when I got involved with a church and with small cell groups…and found men who could talk about–and who cared about–more than booze, babes and ball games!

My impression is that this group is pretty much made up of really nice people. Really.

I’m new to the whole online thing. But it’s been a very interesting experience in lots of ways. And one of the ways it’s been really cool is that — and you might laugh at this — it’s a medium in which men seem relatively comfortable talking about stuff, and so it’s given me a whole new insight into men. I’ve come to like you guys a bit more. Most of ya’ll are pretty sweet, thoughtful, concerned, desirous of love and contact….. Imagine that not all men are booze guzzling, mindless, animals

Really, though, it’s interesting that I’ve had so little experience with the type of openess in real life with men as opposed to this type of communication, and I’ve historically been more comfortable, for better or worse, with developing friendships with men rather than women — but that’s another story.

Anyway, I might disagree with a bunch of folk here, but I nevertheless admire the attempt to find, and live by, higher Ideals.

Take care,
Katie