Devastating family break up 30 yrs ago Realtion with son still estranged after all these yrs

In fact when I came out, I came out to him first. His response was, he said he was so proud of our relationship that I was able to tell him something like that and that he would never of been that close to his own father. He said he loved me and was very positive. So all the years of me feeling I would be rejected was my own issue. But his tennis partner’s son I was in love with at 15 and me and him hooked up although now he has a girlfriend and is “str8” but we are still good friends to this day. But anyway my dad found out by overhearing a conversation and tried to stop my relationship with him. So I felt like I was given a mixed message. Verbally there was the positive parental talk but in reality open aggression towards my first love. And there are still things that bother me like how my parents discuss my sister’s love life. They ask me questions about her bf, ponder when she will get married. Want to meet anyone she is interested in and so on but my relationships are just ignored- kind of like don’t ask don’t tell. Which is very hurtful even though not intentional.

I always felt distance. It is the whole idea: what comes first the chx or the egg? Bad relationships with fathers do not cause being gay. Being gay conversely often cause bad relations. Everyone wants to feel accepted for who they really are, why narcissistic parents are so harmful, and when you are young and feel your parents want to change you or do not accept you at your most basic level your trust in them in broken and that strains the relationship. I think a large part of parenting is modeling to a little version of oneself. If you feel attached you want to pass everything down. Being gay throws that off. Also the study is flawed because the lesbians I know have the same sort of issues but with their mothers. So if like the study says, that there is some systemic societal issue with men being distant than why are there an equal amount or lesbians as gay men?

The problem is parents want to live through their children, instead of accepting and loving what their child really is. I bet most parents of gay children deep down know their child was gay from jump street. Being gay I feel is a hybrid gender (It is my personal belief that gay men are a mix of male and female and that our brains must be different then str8 men. And conversely lesbians exhibit more masculine behaviors. And in a society that does not like more feminine qualities in a boy the father is probably embarrassed or giving him the benefit of doubt, may honestly not know how to relate as well. I have since 4 years of age known I was attracted to guys. My parents are married 31 years, were loving and there was no abuse. A lot of my str8 male friends also have issues with their dads. Maybe men just have a hard time being emotionally connected with another man.

Additionally, why is homosexuality reported in all animal species. We are part of the ecosystem. Native Americans believed there were gods and spirits involved in the female gender and of the male gender and those who exhibited qualities of both were viewed as blessed. We should start viewing homosexuality as a blessing instead of something that can be corrected.

The main root of the problem is people want an image or this fantasy so they blind themselves to reality.

I would also like to point out that in the procreation of bees, the worker bees are perfectly capable of procreating but they do not. They are still part of the process and an important part of the ecosystem. Maybe gays affect the mating selection in another way then actually producing offspring themselves. Although now a lot of gays are having children so maybe this is just a tangent. In any regard, I hope my perspective helps in some way.

Dr. Throckmorton has blogged about him quite a bit, calling his views and “solutions” to the “gay problem” “abhorrent” and saying “there are many evils in this world and Cameron is one of them”.

In spite of this, EXODUS only recently stopped citing his ridiculous and hateful “research” (mainly at Throckmorton’s urging), but EXODUS has never publicly denounced the man or his views — as Throckmorton has done.

NARTH continues to cite his “research” and seems to have no problem at all with his views of gays as “parasitic” or with his holocaust-revisionist ideas. EXODUS and NARTH have done very little to speak up loudly and clearly about this hatemonger.

Why is that? It truly makes them look like “bad organizations with bad people.” Why won’t they do as Throckmorton has done? Do they agree with Cameron? If not, why won’t they say so and clearly denounce the man and his hateful teachings?

If herpes caused Cerebal Palsy in adults instead of their children you can bet casual sex would lose a lot of it’s cool factor.

…then again AIDS runs counter to that idea. I think I heard that AIDS rates were going up. So I dunno…

In any case “old fashioned” values can be life savers.

You are right but I’d add that anybody without good, strong values has an enormous chance to NOT have any of those 3 things.

Take this example… (there are a million of these)

Herpes Virus Link To Preterm Birth And High Blood Pressure During Pregnancy

Their work demonstrates, for the first time, that exposure to viral infection — especially viruses of the herpes group — may be associated with pregnancy-induced hypertensive disease (pre-eclampsia) and also with pre-term birth.

The research discovered the presence of viral nucleic acid in heel-prick blood samples from 1326 newborn babies, taken over a 10-year period. More than 400 of these babies were diagnosed with cerebral palsy.

So a girl sleeps around, catches herpes and later her child is born with Cerebral Palsy. I doubt they teach teens how unbelievably dangerous STDs are in sex ed class.

If you’ve got these three things you’ve got a perfect life.

A) A good relationship with your spouse
B) Good personal health and a healthy spouse
C) Healthy children

Drowssap,

Well said – the only two things I would add is belief/faith/trust in God, and if one is a Christian, belief in Jesus and the power of redemption He brings. The other thing would be to instill RESILIANCY in children anytime and anyway one can to meet the myriad of circumstances and feelings they will incur.

I don’t know who he is either but from what I gather, not too many people on here care for him. Who is he?

The best investment you have made is in your marriage and how you love and respect each other – with that foundation everything else will fall into place

Yup. 100% true.

If you’ve got these three things you’ve got a perfect life.

A) A good relationship with your spouse
B) Good personal health and a healthy spouse
C) Healthy children

Nothing else is terribly significant. I wouldn’t trade those three things for a billion dollars and I’m not joking on that.