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	<title>Comments on: Bishop Gene Robinson backs out of APA symposium</title>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, it is happening to me too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, it is happening to me too!</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/30/bishop-gene-robinson-backs-out-of-apa-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-99019</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. I had a number of theories myself. It&#039;s happened to me at least 8 times now.  I sent Warren an e-mail about it and he&#039;s got his web guy looking into it.  I had one go through normally a bit ago. 

LOL. NO, I had to do the trick to this one too! But I forgot about &#039;refresh page&#039;, I was bouncing to another topic and back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. I had a number of theories myself. It&#8217;s happened to me at least 8 times now.  I sent Warren an e-mail about it and he&#8217;s got his web guy looking into it.  I had one go through normally a bit ago. </p>
<p>LOL. NO, I had to do the trick to this one too! But I forgot about &#8216;refresh page&#8217;, I was bouncing to another topic and back.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/30/bishop-gene-robinson-backs-out-of-apa-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-99017</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddy,

I am having to copy my text and refresh the site and then post.  I thought Warren was out to get me!!!  LOL!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddy,</p>
<p>I am having to copy my text and refresh the site and then post.  I thought Warren was out to get me!!!  LOL!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Eddy</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/30/bishop-gene-robinson-backs-out-of-apa-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-99006</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. In post 98984, Wayne wonders where his missing post is, judges that Warren has blocked it and calls him a hypocrite. Yet, post 98981 is a link  to Wayne&#039;s own website where we can read Wayne&#039;s thoughts and converse to our hearts content. 

(I&#039;ve been having trouble posting for the past few days and I&#039;ve seen several other responses where people were having trouble. My first thought was a &#039;site glitch&#039; but Wayne&#039;s version does sound more incendiary.) 

Gene Robinson&#039;s cancellation is a real tragedy. So what if &quot;Focus on the Family&quot; put their spin on it; didn&#039;t  activist individuals and groups suggest that it was a secret attempt to set Warren up for much needed ridicule? Such a historic meeting would naturally set folks on all sides spinning--and wondering--and concluding. My hope for the meeting was that it would go on in spite of the flurry and buzz around it and that it would hold to David&#039;s vision. Beyond that, I didn&#039;t know what to expect or hope for. 

Warren, I&#039;m sure you and David will discuss further over the next week. I like Ann&#039;s idea of another meeting that remains a secret until &lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt; it&#039;s happened. LOL! But some, of course, would diminish its significance since it was &#039;secretive and closed door&#039; and some would still worry that you&#039;d add your spin and they&#039;d add theirs in the reporting. 

(Note: due to site glitch, I had to switch out of this thread in order to come back and post...just saw the headline that the symposium has been cancelled.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. In post 98984, Wayne wonders where his missing post is, judges that Warren has blocked it and calls him a hypocrite. Yet, post 98981 is a link  to Wayne&#8217;s own website where we can read Wayne&#8217;s thoughts and converse to our hearts content. </p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve been having trouble posting for the past few days and I&#8217;ve seen several other responses where people were having trouble. My first thought was a &#8217;site glitch&#8217; but Wayne&#8217;s version does sound more incendiary.) </p>
<p>Gene Robinson&#8217;s cancellation is a real tragedy. So what if &#8220;Focus on the Family&#8221; put their spin on it; didn&#8217;t  activist individuals and groups suggest that it was a secret attempt to set Warren up for much needed ridicule? Such a historic meeting would naturally set folks on all sides spinning&#8211;and wondering&#8211;and concluding. My hope for the meeting was that it would go on in spite of the flurry and buzz around it and that it would hold to David&#8217;s vision. Beyond that, I didn&#8217;t know what to expect or hope for. </p>
<p>Warren, I&#8217;m sure you and David will discuss further over the next week. I like Ann&#8217;s idea of another meeting that remains a secret until <em>after</em> it&#8217;s happened. LOL! But some, of course, would diminish its significance since it was &#8217;secretive and closed door&#8217; and some would still worry that you&#8217;d add your spin and they&#8217;d add theirs in the reporting. </p>
<p>(Note: due to site glitch, I had to switch out of this thread in order to come back and post&#8230;just saw the headline that the symposium has been cancelled.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/30/bishop-gene-robinson-backs-out-of-apa-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-98999</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That misunderstands the objection to the panel. Nowhere did the purpose or subject matter of the panel change. The point made by Robinson and Drescher is that the panel, as originally planned, was going to (1) provide fodder to anti-gay PR campaigns run by Focus on the Family, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ken,

I understand what you are saying - I can see how groups from all sides and the media would use this for their own promotions - I just wish it didn&#039;t have to be that way.  The next time perhaps four great minds can meet anonymously and all this will be avoided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That misunderstands the objection to the panel. Nowhere did the purpose or subject matter of the panel change. The point made by Robinson and Drescher is that the panel, as originally planned, was going to (1) provide fodder to anti-gay PR campaigns run by Focus on the Family, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying &#8211; I can see how groups from all sides and the media would use this for their own promotions &#8211; I just wish it didn&#8217;t have to be that way.  The next time perhaps four great minds can meet anonymously and all this will be avoided.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the biggest nay sayers have asked for this to be cancelled and then put pressure on others to decline attendance and then makes claims about others not wanting conversation??   That sounds strange.  Do only&lt;strong&gt; some&lt;/strong&gt; people speak for the gay community?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the biggest nay sayers have asked for this to be cancelled and then put pressure on others to decline attendance and then makes claims about others not wanting conversation??   That sounds strange.  Do only<strong> some</strong> people speak for the gay community?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann writes:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I think it would send a strong message to the media and opposing groups if the four participants could rise above all the noise on the outside and proceed with what &lt;b&gt;they&lt;/b&gt; and the moderator initially planned.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
That misunderstands the objection to the panel.  Nowhere did the purpose or subject matter of the panel change.  The point made by Robinson and Drescher is that the panel, as originally planned, was going to (1) provide fodder to anti-gay PR campaigns run by Focus on the Family, etc., and (2) provide a mainstream platform and thereby lend credibility to marginal or discredited views.  (The second objection is more clearly articulated by Drescher than Robinson.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think it would send a strong message to the media and opposing groups if the four participants could rise above all the noise on the outside and proceed with what <b>they</b> and the moderator initially planned.</p></blockquote>
<p>That misunderstands the objection to the panel.  Nowhere did the purpose or subject matter of the panel change.  The point made by Robinson and Drescher is that the panel, as originally planned, was going to (1) provide fodder to anti-gay PR campaigns run by Focus on the Family, etc., and (2) provide a mainstream platform and thereby lend credibility to marginal or discredited views.  (The second objection is more clearly articulated by Drescher than Robinson.)</p>
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		<title>By: Javier Mendez</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/30/bishop-gene-robinson-backs-out-of-apa-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-98995</link>
		<dc:creator>Javier Mendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear it was cancelled.  The APA should not lend its name to bigotry or dangerous attempts to change people&#039;s orientation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear it was cancelled.  The APA should not lend its name to bigotry or dangerous attempts to change people&#8217;s orientation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/04/30/bishop-gene-robinson-backs-out-of-apa-symposium/comment-page-1/#comment-98988</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would send a strong message to the media and opposing groups if the four participants could rise above all the noise on the outside and proceed with what &lt;strong&gt;they&lt;/strong&gt; and the moderator initially planned.  It would be a show of solidarity that could set an exemplary tone and demonstrate that pro-active steps to understanding and reconciliation is far better than the prevailing contention that has hurt so many for so long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would send a strong message to the media and opposing groups if the four participants could rise above all the noise on the outside and proceed with what <strong>they</strong> and the moderator initially planned.  It would be a show of solidarity that could set an exemplary tone and demonstrate that pro-active steps to understanding and reconciliation is far better than the prevailing contention that has hurt so many for so long.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Kevin - I appreciate your answer.  Do you think Pastor Robinson has all the correct information now regarding the other participants and the purpose of the symposium?  If so, then whatever decision he makes is the right one for him.  If not, and his decision is based on incomplete or inaccurate information regarding the participants and/or the purpose of the symposium, then we all lose without him there and the value he could add. I certainly respect his decision either way but am concerned that the information he has is correct and from the source rather than outsiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kevin &#8211; I appreciate your answer.  Do you think Pastor Robinson has all the correct information now regarding the other participants and the purpose of the symposium?  If so, then whatever decision he makes is the right one for him.  If not, and his decision is based on incomplete or inaccurate information regarding the participants and/or the purpose of the symposium, then we all lose without him there and the value he could add. I certainly respect his decision either way but am concerned that the information he has is correct and from the source rather than outsiders.</p>
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