http://wordofawoman.com/2012/04/06/why-do-christians-curse-the-silence/

I appreciate you trying to mediate here. But most ex gays DO define their conversion AS going from gay to straight. Or from having gay sex to not having sex at all. And the lines around what that really means get extremely blurred and it seems the hope is no one will probe enough to know what’s really going on.

Mary, if I remember was Jewish. And is now Christian. The ramifications for changing RELIGIONS doesn’t have the consequences that declaring oneself now heterosexual does.

The definitions, are ambiguous, making my point that the general public is badly confused by this and gay young people pay a terrible price for this confusion.

How can one actually qualify an ex gay? Marriage to the opposite sex? Gay people do that all the time.

How one dresses, speaks, what sports they play or their social network, the profession they are in?

No one dare ask the quality of sex they are having or if it’s all they wanted and expected it to be.

Which is actually the very thing no one WILL probe in polite society.

So we sit around here and try and make nice, and meanwhile, as I said…the mutability of one’s sexual orientation is ARGUED in courts as a justification for discriminatory laws.

The bottom line: what kind of mind is it, that believes giving a broken toy to a needy child is still an act of supreme charity and goodness?

Ex gays who would LIKE for straight people to be nice to gay people don’t seem to get that CONVERTING gay people IS an act of charity. The poor, struggling gay person is redeemed and better off being heterosexual.

Ex gays are people trying to hand off something THEY no longer want, and in doing so, cannot defend.

And gay people have a terrible time defending who THEY are. Which makes ex gays (who are legally and institutionally free and are no longer burdened by being gay anymore) look self serving. The intentions of charity and protectiveness towards gay people looks like lip service, because the RESULTS of their conversion does damage.

And being in denial of the damage done to gay credibility is and could be unforgivable.

There are enough ex gays out there definitely hostile to gay people. And whatever charity or advocacy Mary and Warren espouse, as I’m saying for the nth time, is rendered WORTHLESS by their assertions of conversion.

Period.

And as for some charity being better than nothing, I also said that their charitable goals are NOT ENOUGH to counter the beliefs and confusion out there.

There is such a thing as a person blundering with the best of intentions and screwing up royally instead.

And it makes me angry when someone won’t accept just how badly they ARE screwing up.

Would it help if we try to define what “change” means? Regan – change often doesn’t mean moving from being gay to being straight if that helps.