A number of the regulars have left this thread and I honestly don’t think Dr. Brown will have any problems letting J. James have the last word. Please consider closing it for further comments.

Thank you for letting me have the last word.

I certainly have no desire to prove to someone that I’m a defender of “the faith” in this setting here.

I don’t blame you. Your moral position is untenable.

You now raise some larger, general questions which are outside of the purview of this blog and, more particularly, this thread

I completely disagree. The basis for every view you have expressed in this thread and for every view which spawned this thread itself is wholly grounded in the validity of your faith. If your faith is invalid, then every single view you have expressed here is invalid and there would be no discussion at all. In that sense, it is not only entirely inside the purview of this thread, but it is the very essence of this thread.

hence my suggestion that you contact my ministry and we will refer you to sources that will be of help.

I fail to understand why you think I want or need your help. I don’t see you as a teacher, a friend, or a minister. I see you as a vicious enemy who merits no compassion whatsoever.

If you are that serious about the questions, you will certainly be ready to invest the months and years of studying and researching the materials to which we will refer you. If you have already done so, I don’t expect that a few comments from me will change your views.

I fail to understand why you think I’m looking toward you to change my views. I’m not in this for self-improvement. The way that you see gay activists is the way that I see you. You’re not just an anti-gay activist, you’re an anti-me activist. You long for a me-free world.

So, this is the last you’ll hear from me on this, and the invitation for you to contact our ministry remains. And I would be delighted to have one of my grads speak with you by phone should you want to get into a more in-depth discussion of your questions.

I would be delighted to turn any number of your lackeys into lukewarm doubting Thomases, but how does that help me if the act of doing so isn’t public? I completely understand why you want that conversation to be private. It’s obvious that you are in the inferior moral position with no way out. Having to publicly defend the validity of your faith in light of 1 Samuel 15:3 and Hosea 13:16 is the last place I would want to be.

if you think I should reply to everyone in detail on every blog and thread and in every email, I will gladly put you on the list, in which case I would hope to be able to get back to you about 15-20 years from now, you now being the latest to be added to that list. 🙂

Fifteen to twenty years seems a little soon for the public debate you never intend to have. Since you’ve so graciously given me the last word, I will gladly take the opportunity to leave the facts out here for all to see:

Michael makes a strong moral stand against homosexuality. Michael thinks that homosexuality is wrong in all cases without exception. However, Michael has to waffle on the issues of baby murder and forced abortion. Michael must concede that those actions are sometimes morally right, even holy, because his god mandated that they be done, and this very same god is Michael’s chosen moral compass.

This is why we should take pride and satisfaction in being hated by Michael’s god. Michael’s god is an evil and malicious god. I don’t want a god like that to approve of me. I would much rather a god like that to despise me.

Be well,

That’s pretty rich. If you had it your way, I would vanish from the world forever.

Are you christian? I notice you are implying J. James’ assumption was wrong, yet you never actually said he was.

Was my assumption correct or incorrect?