Although “we the people” do indeed have the right to amend and delete as we see fit, perhaps we should not forget history in doing so…

For example, if segregation or interracial marriage bans would have been up to “we the people,” it would likely be found somewhere in our constitution today. Although both were disposed of by the court system…in its time, they were not supported by the general public. If both issues would have gone to public vote, we’d likely still see two races unable to marry.

History has a funny way of showing us fairness and equality. Just because the majority endorses discrimination, for example, doesn’t make that discrimination right…or legal.

Looking at constitutional issues, perhaps it is best that the whims of “we the people” are kept in check.

“We the people” have the right to amend and delete our constitution. We have the right to make it say whatever we decide we want it to say.

However, you weren’t talking about amending the constitution in post 61244, you were talking about laws.

And the only time the US Constitution was amended to restrict people’s rights it had some pretty disastrous results and ended up getting repealed.

The Bill of Rights wasn’t written on stone tablets and handed down to Moses — it was written by human beings and ratified by the various states. As were every one of the subsequent amendments.

I’m suprised anyone even questions this fact.

Note: One of the first to respond was Peter Labarbera, who himself denies others the opportunity to comment on his thoughts and musings via his blog “americans for (peters) truth”. He is a man who speaks, yet never listens to others. He does not allow anyone with a opposing viewpoint to comment on his site which shows how gutless he is. Sadly, “he can dish it out, but can’t take it”

I think one thing we have to note is that men like Peter Labarbera and Matt Barber have withdrawn from mainstream society at this point and now make their livings on the backs of gays. They say they do it for god, but do they? Only they know the truth and birds of a feather flock together. Neither of these men would survive the real world that we all face. The hide out on websites writing their prideful articles and get high on having people read their “works of art”

Imagine going to work at Allstate, or any company for that matter and you start to talk about Gays and how you think they are immoral, sinners, incompatible with christianity, etc., etc. Besides being unChrist like, it is completely mean sprited and inhuman, yet these men fight for their rights to keep hurting others. That is why they are so worried ENDA will pass. They would have to stop hurting others in the name of God.

Then they have the nerve to say that they verbally assault people with their biblical words so they can “save them” so we can be in heaven with them one day. (side note from me: I think someone needs to save them)

To poor Matt Barbers brother Jared, I understand you are worried about him. When you watch someone become obsessed with any subject, that is scarey. It must be frightening to listen to your brother rant about gays all day long. I say pray for him, and ask god to set him free of this obsession. Remember, he got fired for trying to get others to dislike a group of people and now he has to justify what he doing by saying “this war was brought to him”. As you know, he brought it on himself by using company time and equipment to bash. Not cool Matt.

Actually pedophile hurts an innocent victim as does drunk driving have the potential to harm an innocent person. That’s why they are illegal.

I agree – I hope I wasn’t suggesting otherwise earlier. However, pedophilia is also considered a disorder, whereas homosexuality is not.

And I do agree (as I have said many times in this blog) that Christians view homosexuality as some greater sin. The idea that sins are graded is a deep myth and not biblical. Those ideas need to be addressed by the whole church worldwide.

Tminothy,
I disagree that people are to accept homosexuality as biblically correct before we can get along. We do have to treat eachother with respect and dignity regardless of our varying views, opinions, etc… on biblical issues.

Thank you for responding to me… but I think you misread what I wrote. I did not in any instance state that people have to accept homosexuality as biblically correct in order to get along.

What I said was that though God may see all sin the same Christians treat different sins differently. Do you disagree with this?

I stated that some sins (such as lying, fornication, greed, and pride) are viewed as personal sins. Though they may be forbidden to Christian life, we don’t view those who do them as evil. Other sins (such as murder and rape) are viewed as evils rather than just sins. We shun those who do these things and call them evil. Do you disagree with this?

I view homosexuality as not being in line with God’s intentions for me.

My question was not whether you think homosexuality is in line with what God wants for you. I know that you do not view it as so.

My question for you – and for Warren – and for everyone else who is so far refusing to address this question – is whether you view homosexuality as a sin (similar to fornication and greed) or as an evil (similar to murder and rape)?

Jag,

Thanks – and yes, it is. Also, it has been my blessing.

Actually pedophile hurts an innocent victim as does drunk driving have the potential to harm an innocent person. That’s why they are illegal.