Comments on: Trailer for documentary Gay No More? http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/ A College Psychology Professor's Observations About Public Policy, Mental Health, Sexual Identity, and Religious Issues Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:10:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Mary http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-79206 Mary Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:02:30 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-79206 Happy New Year Ann! Please post more so I am not alone in the 800's!!! Happy New Year Ann! Please post more so I am not alone in the 800′s!!!

]]> By: Ann http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-79188 Ann Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:16:30 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-79188 Happy New Year Mary! Happy New Year Mary!

]]> By: Mary http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-79185 Mary Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:04:44 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-79185 Concerned, Thank you. (I'm ex lesbian and am more towards the midddle as well) Concerned,

Thank you. (I’m ex lesbian and am more towards the midddle as well)

]]> By: Ann http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-79180 Ann Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:48:03 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-79180 Concerned, I always appreciate what you write and the way you write it but these two posts have especially touched me. Thank you for sharing what so many others feel and how they live but do not talk about. Please be encouraged and feel supported in that which you believe in and the choices you have made and continue to make - they are to be admired and respected. Concerned,

I always appreciate what you write and the way you write it but these two posts have especially touched me. Thank you for sharing what so many others feel and how they live but do not talk about. Please be encouraged and feel supported in that which you believe in and the choices you have made and continue to make – they are to be admired and respected.

]]> By: Mary http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-79172 Mary Mon, 07 Jan 2008 23:12:30 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-79172 Drowssap, There are no specifics - each person is differently inspired and motivated thus what works for one person isn't neccesarily going to work another. That's why - in my opinion - those ex gay camps are useless and dangerous. And ex gays are not going to crusade (unless of course they are paid, trying to change others, etc.....) when there is soo much animosity (sp??) against us within the church and gay communities both. Why risk it??? Sometimes it just isn't worth it. If you want to change - seek change. Don't seek perfection or to be like others - but be a changed person in your perception of what sexuality means to you. If you don't want to seek change- don't. Drowssap,

There are no specifics – each person is differently inspired and motivated thus what works for one person isn’t neccesarily going to work another. That’s why – in my opinion – those ex gay camps are useless and dangerous. And ex gays are not going to crusade (unless of course they are paid, trying to change others, etc…..) when there is soo much animosity (sp??) against us within the church and gay communities both. Why risk it??? Sometimes it just isn’t worth it. If you want to change – seek change. Don’t seek perfection or to be like others – but be a changed person in your perception of what sexuality means to you. If you don’t want to seek change- don’t.

]]> By: Jim Phelan http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-79127 Jim Phelan Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:06:48 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-79127 I like to honor "concerned" for his courage and honesty. I like to honor “concerned” for his courage and honesty.

]]> By: jayhuck http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-79117 jayhuck Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:40:01 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-79117 Concerned, I am technically ex-gay - I have struggled with my sexuality and I am celibate. I have found that many gay people are in good, loving supportive homosexual relationships, and that there are many great gay families out there. I think you will find that if you treat gay people and gay couples with respect and do not work to try and restrict their rights, then they will do the same for you. Concerned,

I am technically ex-gay – I have struggled with my sexuality and I am celibate. I have found that many gay people are in good, loving supportive homosexual relationships, and that there are many great gay families out there. I think you will find that if you treat gay people and gay couples with respect and do not work to try and restrict their rights, then they will do the same for you.

]]> By: concerned http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-78976 concerned Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:58:23 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-78976 JAG, Just to clear something up, I am not an evangelical and when it comes to the extreme views that some seem to want to focus on, I too think this is damaging, but that goes for the extreme on either side. Perhaps what would be more beneficial would be for those of us who are leaning more towards this center point where more willing to stand against the extremes on their side of the issue. ie. I am willing to say that much of what is shown about extremely fundamentalist Christians is harming their cause more than it is doing good and I would have to agree with you that often this does not come across as very loving. In many ways I am grateful for having had to struggle with my sexuality over these many years, but that has not in any way made me believe that I can find happiness by embracing a gay life. I know you may not be able to understand why this is so, but if you want me to try to accept the choices you have made then all I am asking is that you accept mine without judgement. I have learned much from you. I have experienced anger and frustration, but ultimately I have much more clearly come to understand what is true for me and my family. I will not stand back and be judged by anyone expect God himself for this choice and I no longer doubt that it is anything but a choice on how I wish to live my life. JAG,
Just to clear something up, I am not an evangelical and when it comes to the extreme views that some seem to want to focus on, I too think this is damaging, but that goes for the extreme on either side. Perhaps what would be more beneficial would be for those of us who are leaning more towards this center point where more willing to stand against the extremes on their side of the issue. ie. I am willing to say that much of what is shown about extremely fundamentalist Christians is harming their cause more than it is doing good and I would have to agree with you that often this does not come across as very loving.
In many ways I am grateful for having had to struggle with my sexuality over these many years, but that has not in any way made me believe that I can find happiness by embracing a gay life. I know you may not be able to understand why this is so, but if you want me to try to accept the choices you have made then all I am asking is that you accept mine without judgement. I have learned much from you. I have experienced anger and frustration, but ultimately I have much more clearly come to understand what is true for me and my family. I will not stand back and be judged by anyone expect God himself for this choice and I no longer doubt that it is anything but a choice on how I wish to live my life.

]]> By: concerned http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-78971 concerned Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:42:12 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-78971 JAG, I am a man who has not embraced the gay lifestyle but have struggled with same-sex attraction in spite of getting married and starting a family. I am tired of being judged as being selfish for choosing to stay with my family even though I have these struggles. The gay community has done the exact things that you accuse Christians of doing. I guess it really makes a difference as to which side of the center point you find yourself falling on this issue and because I love my family and my wife and do not in anyway believe that I have these same-sex feeling because of my genetic makeup but rather can clearly identify many developmental issues in my childhood that could have definitely pulled me in this direction I throw my support to the Christians (particularly the original teaching of Christ and the early church) who see this as a negative force in my life and something that I must avoid if I want to find happiness. If you are on the opposite side of that center point and have found happiness I will also have to accept that, but when someone starts saying to others that I will never be happy if I do not accept that I am gay, I am sorry they have crossed the line and are now passing judgement on me. JAG,
I am a man who has not embraced the gay lifestyle but have struggled with same-sex attraction in spite of getting married and starting a family. I am tired of being judged as being selfish for choosing to stay with my family even though I have these struggles. The gay community has done the exact things that you accuse Christians of doing. I guess it really makes a difference as to which side of the center point you find yourself falling on this issue and because I love my family and my wife and do not in anyway believe that I have these same-sex feeling because of my genetic makeup but rather can clearly identify many developmental issues in my childhood that could have definitely pulled me in this direction I throw my support to the Christians (particularly the original teaching of Christ and the early church) who see this as a negative force in my life and something that I must avoid if I want to find happiness. If you are on the opposite side of that center point and have found happiness I will also have to accept that, but when someone starts saying to others that I will never be happy if I do not accept that I am gay, I am sorry they have crossed the line and are now passing judgement on me.

]]> By: Eddy http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/comment-page-1/#comment-57231 Eddy Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:59:07 +0000 http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/10/21/trailer-for-documentary-gay-no-more/#comment-57231 Thanks both Jag and Ann! I am so thankful for your voices here on the blog! Man can not live on 'snarkiness' alone...please know that you make a difference. Thanks both Jag and Ann!

I am so thankful for your voices here on the blog! Man can not live on ‘snarkiness’ alone…please know that you make a difference.

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