My bad! I thought you were new here and unfamiliar with Warren.

I assume you’re going to the conference, safe and pleasant travels to you!

He has not, in any way shape or form, answered the questions I posted and sent him. I’m sure he is waiting for when he has more time.

I have known of and about Warren for many years, and I understand where he stands on some issues, but that doesn’t tell us anything about how he might handle some specific, but very important counseling situations. There are some things that disturb me in his Sexual Identity therapy framework he drafted with Mark Yarhouse.

I’m happy to wait for the answers, but I don’t think its wrong to ask them, and they have nothing to do with understanding where the man stands.

I do believe that Warren would refer someone on if he didn’t feel comfortable addressing an issue. But, I think the scenario Jayhuck suggested would be well within Warren’s capabilities. He’d assist as much as he could and, if he found he was having moral conflicts that were impacting the neutrality (hence the effectiveness) of his therapy, he’d refer on.

Why wouldn’t this violate his conscience? The answer is ‘for most of the same reasons hosting this site doesn’t violate his conscience’. It’s not like the Salvation Army where they’ll feed you IF you stay for the preaching; he hosts, he moderates, he researches, he presents topics you’d never hear discussed in a church and he encourages voices from all sides of the issue(s)…yes, he sometimes talks about topics other than H…anyway, he does all this without making us stick around to listen to his theological sermonizing. His call is to provide a safe environment for truth to be discovered and then let God take it from there.

I hope I got that right…if not, we’ll be hearing from Warren shortly…even from vacation…with clarifications and/or embellishments.

And I don’t try to answer for him… but we do have to recognize that like everyone else he has the areas in which he specializes and is comfortable in giving counseling. I suspect that if someone came to Warren with something that he didn’t feel comfortable in addressing, he’s refer them to someone else.

But I’m just guessing here.

Many of us have been asking Warren specific questions about therapy-related situations, but he hasn’t been answering.

I attribute that to him being the busy and sought-after personality/country he is , but I’m hoping he doesn’t remain silent forever.

I would be really interested in hearing his perspective on that as well.

This seems to be a consistent theme with you, Stephen. But it confuses me. I am unaware of intolerance from people screaming for tolerance. Perhaps you can explain yourself better and give us an example of this intolerance you’ve seen.

Who, precisely, has been intolerant of you and in what way?

And just to be clear, I think most compassionate people understand why gay people can sometimes be intolerant. It is because THEY are the minority group who most frequently receives abuse in society. They are bullied, they are physically and emotionally abused by family and by strangers, and they are told that they don’t deserve marriage – they are treated as second class citizens, and many, because of all these things and the message they hear that they are sinners bound for hell, kill themselves or are killed by others.

Pardon me, but I should think you’d understand why some people in the gay community can seem intolerant or defensive at times, especially, after living like this for years and than having a group say we love you, but you have to change – OH, and we are going to undermine your rights through legislation!!!

Are you saying then that you don’t have a problem with the Ex-Gay contingent that asks for the same rights as gay people and groups and then turns around and politically works to undermine the rights of gay people?