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	<title>Comments on: Virginia Tech Shootings</title>
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	<description>A College Psychology Professor&#039;s Observations About Public Policy, Mental Health, Sexual Identity, and Religious Issues</description>
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		<title>By: Fallout from the Arizona shooting &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-313579</link>
		<dc:creator>Fallout from the Arizona shooting &#8212; Warren Throckmorton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my personal view is that efforts to locate this horrible act in ideology is a mistake. As with other shootings, I think mental illness is underestimated by policy makers. Apparently there were warning signs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21639</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Autism is being cited by extended family as an early diagnosis.

see:  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=we-are-glad-he-is-dead-by-cho-s-family--&amp;method=full&amp;objectid=18931479&amp;siteid=89520-name_page.html

Written in English &quot;rag&quot; paper.

Seems inadequate.  Childhood schizophrenia is very difficult to diagnose...and called many other things until the symptoms clarify in adulthood.

I am reminded of the numerous times people reached out to him with little or no reply...a form of Aspergers with paranoid and narcissistic components?

It appears that mother may have had some difficulty interpersonally as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Autism is being cited by extended family as an early diagnosis.</p>
<p>see:  <a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=we-are-glad-he-is-dead-by-cho-s-family--&#038;method=full&#038;objectid=18931479&#038;siteid=89520-name_page.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=we-are-glad-he-is-dead-by-cho-s-family&#8211;&#038;method=full&#038;objectid=18931479&#038;siteid=89520-name_page.html</a></p>
<p>Written in English &#8220;rag&#8221; paper.</p>
<p>Seems inadequate.  Childhood schizophrenia is very difficult to diagnose&#8230;and called many other things until the symptoms clarify in adulthood.</p>
<p>I am reminded of the numerous times people reached out to him with little or no reply&#8230;a form of Aspergers with paranoid and narcissistic components?</p>
<p>It appears that mother may have had some difficulty interpersonally as well.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21484</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See Maggie Gallagher&#039;s column here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/heroes_in_hells_midst.html

&quot;Why do they kill? Who cares? The explanation varies in the details, but the basic script is the same: They are men who choose murder to combat humiliation, to reign for a few ghastly moments in hell, rather than to serve in heaven. 

How do some facing hell find the courage to act to stop it? That&#039;s what I want to know.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Maggie Gallagher&#8217;s column here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/heroes_in_hells_midst.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/heroes_in_hells_midst.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Why do they kill? Who cares? The explanation varies in the details, but the basic script is the same: They are men who choose murder to combat humiliation, to reign for a few ghastly moments in hell, rather than to serve in heaven. </p>
<p>How do some facing hell find the courage to act to stop it? That&#8217;s what I want to know.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21447</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Rumanian Jewish professor, a survivor of the Holocaust, who placed his body and himself in front of the gunman in order to enable his students to escape, gave his life for others. Let his name and example be what we remember from this terrible week.&quot;

A start...

Overcome evil with good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Rumanian Jewish professor, a survivor of the Holocaust, who placed his body and himself in front of the gunman in order to enable his students to escape, gave his life for others. Let his name and example be what we remember from this terrible week.&#8221;</p>
<p>A start&#8230;</p>
<p>Overcome evil with good.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21433</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart aches for the families who have lost so much no senselessly.  It seems like this is the time for prayer not speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart aches for the families who have lost so much no senselessly.  It seems like this is the time for prayer not speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21427</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You heard it here first:  Floride in toothpaste and our drinking water causes violence.  The next time you hear of a violent event, remember I predicted it.  It&#039;s floride, I tell ya.

Yes, I&#039;m being snarky.  But my point is that this event was predictable, and not because of guns or video games or immigration.  But because there will always be some tiny percentage of the population that lacks the ability (or will) to empathize or to see beyond their own instant emotional condition.

Every people in every time have produced individuals like this.  But as our culture has become more urban and as transportation and access has become more available the ability of these people to do greater damage has become eased.  And our immediate media makes such events appear closer and more dramatic.

It is a natural desire to control that which we cannot control by looking for fault and blame.  Some are already gearing up to blame the school for inadequate warning.  Others will blame cultural laxity.  Others will blame godlessness.  Others will blame gun availability or video games or even &quot;a society that did not step in to recognize and help this poor isolated and unhappy young man&quot;.

Ultimately, though, I doubt there is anything that can be blamed.  And I doubt there is anything that can be done to stop it from happening again.

Unless, of course, we do away with the evil flouride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You heard it here first:  Floride in toothpaste and our drinking water causes violence.  The next time you hear of a violent event, remember I predicted it.  It&#8217;s floride, I tell ya.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m being snarky.  But my point is that this event was predictable, and not because of guns or video games or immigration.  But because there will always be some tiny percentage of the population that lacks the ability (or will) to empathize or to see beyond their own instant emotional condition.</p>
<p>Every people in every time have produced individuals like this.  But as our culture has become more urban and as transportation and access has become more available the ability of these people to do greater damage has become eased.  And our immediate media makes such events appear closer and more dramatic.</p>
<p>It is a natural desire to control that which we cannot control by looking for fault and blame.  Some are already gearing up to blame the school for inadequate warning.  Others will blame cultural laxity.  Others will blame godlessness.  Others will blame gun availability or video games or even &#8220;a society that did not step in to recognize and help this poor isolated and unhappy young man&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ultimately, though, I doubt there is anything that can be blamed.  And I doubt there is anything that can be done to stop it from happening again.</p>
<p>Unless, of course, we do away with the evil flouride.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21425</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe facing the depth and the weight of the loss would be too much for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe facing the depth and the weight of the loss would be too much for us all.</p>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21424</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding more:

I now have two kids in college...the openness and sense of safety they feel everyday makes the educational experience so powerful...safety breeds trust and allows learning to expand quickly...

My son and daughter called and we talked last night.  

I still don&#039;t feel better, because I know such good people died yestarday (students, faculty; people who love trust and learning and exploring) and nearly all the talk in the past tends to be about the perpetrator and his motives...

What if we focused on the loss and the depth of it, rather than on the psyche and motives of the perp?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding more:</p>
<p>I now have two kids in college&#8230;the openness and sense of safety they feel everyday makes the educational experience so powerful&#8230;safety breeds trust and allows learning to expand quickly&#8230;</p>
<p>My son and daughter called and we talked last night.  </p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t feel better, because I know such good people died yestarday (students, faculty; people who love trust and learning and exploring) and nearly all the talk in the past tends to be about the perpetrator and his motives&#8230;</p>
<p>What if we focused on the loss and the depth of it, rather than on the psyche and motives of the perp?</p>
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		<title>By: David Blakeslee</title>
		<link>http://wthrockmorton.com/2007/04/16/virginia-tech-shootings/comment-page-1/#comment-21422</link>
		<dc:creator>David Blakeslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 17:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deep breath...

in country since middle childhood.

It will be an interesting conversation when more of the facts are in.

I was a resident assistant in the dorms in college and found myself on the front line of a number of problems, including severe mental illness, for which I had no training and very little support.

My heart goes out to the responsible, but likely poorly trained Resident Assistant who first attempted to intervene with this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deep breath&#8230;</p>
<p>in country since middle childhood.</p>
<p>It will be an interesting conversation when more of the facts are in.</p>
<p>I was a resident assistant in the dorms in college and found myself on the front line of a number of problems, including severe mental illness, for which I had no training and very little support.</p>
<p>My heart goes out to the responsible, but likely poorly trained Resident Assistant who first attempted to intervene with this man.</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, I&#039;d like everyone to take a deep breath and stop speculating, because it&#039;s just an excuse to talk about pet issues.  Whatever the proximal cause, it&#039;s bound to be complex and require lots of unraveling.

I&#039;ve seen arguments for/against gun control, against giving Visas to &lt;strike&gt;Pakistanis&lt;/strike&gt;, &lt;strike&gt;Chinese&lt;/strike&gt; and now South Koreans.  We&#039;ve got evolution, atheism, the lack of God in schools, violence in the media (um, self-referential irony?), etc.  And of course, Fred Phelps is now hystrionic over &quot;teh gays&quot; and whatever else it is he likes to picket.

Can this event, for once, not be about *us*, but about the victims, their community and yes, the horrible, broken human being who took these actions?

[end rant, stepping off of soapbox, noting that previous rant was not directed at anyone here]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, I&#8217;d like everyone to take a deep breath and stop speculating, because it&#8217;s just an excuse to talk about pet issues.  Whatever the proximal cause, it&#8217;s bound to be complex and require lots of unraveling.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen arguments for/against gun control, against giving Visas to <strike>Pakistanis</strike>, <strike>Chinese</strike> and now South Koreans.  We&#8217;ve got evolution, atheism, the lack of God in schools, violence in the media (um, self-referential irony?), etc.  And of course, Fred Phelps is now hystrionic over &#8220;teh gays&#8221; and whatever else it is he likes to picket.</p>
<p>Can this event, for once, not be about *us*, but about the victims, their community and yes, the horrible, broken human being who took these actions?</p>
<p>[end rant, stepping off of soapbox, noting that previous rant was not directed at anyone here]</p>
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