Comments on: Accurate public statements: A Montel post-mortem https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/ A [retired] college psychology professor's observations about public policy, mental health, sexual identity, and religious issues Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:40:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: jayhuck https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4188 Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:40:32 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4188 Ivan,

The problem with so many Ex-Gay ministries is that they are Christian – for the most part anyway – almost all are religious – so you would expect them to conduct themselves in ways that not only separated them from this world, but that would lead others to God. The sad thing is that you don’t see this. You see Ex-Gay groups and leaders acting just like anyone else – even going as far to twist and distort truth, usually for political and social ends. This may be the one thing that upsets me so much about the formal Ex-Gay movement.

]]> By: Jaco https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4187 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:05:02 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4187 Thank you for the positive action you take in assisting so many of us struggling with unwanted urges we never wanted.

I am aware of certain therapies professionals use in resolving these issues. What is your take on hypnotically induced ego-state therapy? How successful is this therapy, and what approaches need to be taken in order to ensure positive reorientation results?

Regards,

Jaco

]]> By: dalea https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4186 Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:59:29 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4186 For gay men of my generation, and previous ones, the trip through therapy was a requirement of life. Those who came out before 1980, at least, were often guilted into going into some sort of change therapy. When I was a student in the 60’s, at a liberal college by the way, anyone caught in gay activity was coerced into change therapy. At this time only the hard core fundamentalist shrinks thought it would work. A figure often heard was 98% failure from the various therapists.

I suspect she read the study, and applied the folk wisdom that almost all attempts fail to what it actually says.

During the 70’s I recall an event in which numerous people who were listed as ‘successfully changed orientation’ in studies stood up and proclaimed that they had not. Larry Kramer of ACTUP was one such.

This looks to be a case of someone seeing what she expects to see.

]]> By: Ivan https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4185 Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:10:56 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4185 Glad you’ve kept ontop of the Montel (Dr. Salzar) claim.

There is a website which watches and comments on ex gays. I wonder what a website would look like commenting on those who critique and make claims about ex gays. I mean, really, is the ex-gay movement the only dishonest one?

]]> By: Warren https://wthrockmorton.com/2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4184 Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:20:38 +0000 https://www.wthrockmorton.com//2007/03/20/accurate-public-statements-a-montel-post-mortem/#comment-4184 It also depends on how change is defined and whether satisfaction with therapy is the focus, etc.

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