I looked at the student organizations for Grove City. There don’t appear to be any gay student organizations. If students attempted to form such an organization would you publically support it (personally as a faculty member and/or professionally as a campus counselor)? Further, would you have any concerns of administrative reprisals for doing so?

My comment was more of an inquiry as to whether you would be allowed to “date” a person of the same-sex on Grove City Campus…as those who are heterosexual are allowed to do.

Would you be allowed to be “congruent” with yourself if you were gay as someone would be if straight?

I would hope you would have the freedom, in academics, to show leadership here. What a great opportunity for discussion…

“Warren, I am happy to hear that you find that therapy is about “congruence, not change.” My impression from earlier videos you had released did not give that impression – this seems to be evolution nonetheless…and one I am pleased with. By giving even the impression that change is possible for everyone, it leaves many who hope for change feeling more hopeless than they felt prior to starting “treatment.” Especially at a place such as the one you teach at – which would seem to give the impression that being gay is not acceptable.

What is Grove City College policy on same-sex dating? Is it the same as for opposite-sexed couples? Does it reflect your more progressive values of being consistent with self under God?”

“Regarding “change”, I would again respect the client’s choice. That said, I feel that it is my duty to let the client know: (1) That I can help him make better choices about his behavior, but that orientation tends to be very persistent, (2) That there is no good evidence to support “change” therapies, (3) That such therapies may actually do harm, (4) That I do not know how to help a gay client become straight and (5) That I don’t know of a therapist who does.”

However, I’m fairly certain the gentleman you defend in earlier comments is competent enough to defend himself.

Warren, I am happy to hear that you find that therapy is about “congruence, not change.” My impression from earlier videos you had released did not give that impression – this seems to be evolution nonetheless…and one I am pleased with. By giving even the impression that change is possible for everyone, it leaves many who hope for change feeling more hopeless than they felt prior to starting “treatment.” Especially at a place such as the one you teach at – which would seem to give the impression that being gay is not acceptable.

What is Grove City College policy on same-sex dating? Is it the same as for opposite-sexed couples? Does it reflect your more progressive values of being consistent with self under God?

Regarding celibacy, I could help a client do that for “now” — but I’m not sure I would know how to help a client be celibate for a lifetime — except to continue to respect his choice.

Regarding “change”, I would again respect the client’s choice. That said, I feel that it is my duty to let the client know: (1) That I can help him make better choices about his behavior, but that orientation tends to be very persistent, (2) That there is no good evidence to support “change” therapies, (3) That such therapies may actually do harm, (4) That I do not know how to help a gay client become straight and (5) That I don’t know of a therapist who does.

I think Warren is a therapist worth his salt. I believe that Warren might very well point out to a client that it is possible to have a “valued” and satisfying gay life. I know he respects the fact that I have such a life — even though we disagree on what the Bible has to say about it.